10/30/2018 11:41 PMPosted by Enekie...have you actually played through Redridge?
10/30/2018 11:41 PMPosted by EnekieAnd again with the screaming insults and namecalling.
Nope, and it doesn't matter, because I can't. Which is the entire point. Horde has no quests there. Or the Wetlands.
10/30/2018 11:39 AMPosted by BludthundurWhy does Blizzard hate the horde so much? We NEVER got a raid against them, but they get TWO raids against us? You also kill off our warchiefs faster than characters in Game of Thrones while only Varian died in Legion. Alliance crys about losing Darnassus when NO ONE went there when we lost our iconic Undercity which was second to Orgrimmar. I could forgive that if you didn't always make us the bad guys when it's obvious the alliance is worse with exiling people for no reason and taking the most reckless and foolish race of all time (Void Elves). Seriously, THROW US A BONE FOR ONCE!!!
10/30/2018 11:34 PMPosted by KelisariaOkay, you're just a blatant liar. Congrats. Forsaken "story" was dropped after the initial content after the Wrathgate. Everything after that is basically "Alliance of super justice and goodness".
10/30/2018 11:34 PMPosted by KelisariaAh, yes, the baseless and made up fanon that liars like you spout to validate your constant pity party of how poor and "mistreated" you are, while you get all of the heroics, all of the character developments, and all of the actual faction pride.
10/30/2018 11:34 PMPosted by KelisariaBlatant lies. They didn't even use Thrall, or any of the big racial leaders, until mid-Wrath. No one was "sick" of Thrall, certainly not during Wrath or before that. Thrall was practically worshipped by Horde players back then. People don't like "Go'el" because they ruined a perfectly good character just for "change".
So, yeah, you're talking from your butt.
10/30/2018 11:34 PMPosted by KelisariaReally? !@#$ing REALLY? This is the depth of fail you will dredge up to whine? Pathetic. The Horde was given that zone to make up for the questing imbalance that the Horde had suffered from the Alliance loving devs.
10/30/2018 11:34 PMPosted by KelisariaGee, so you got a taste of what the Horde had already been beaten with, and threw a childish temper tantrum over it? Shoe's on the other foot, time for your medicine.
10/30/2018 11:34 PMPosted by KelisariaYou mean where the Horde lost all sense of pride in itself? I don't see you Alliance players losing characters or suffering an identity crisis. Until then, Alliance have nothing to complain about. Ever.
10/30/2018 11:34 PMPosted by KelisariaThey cut that because Alliance players, like you, threw a tantrum because you didn't want to be lead by a Human. Especially after the Tyrande scenario.
10/30/2018 11:34 PMPosted by KelisariaI really want to know what you are smoking to get to this conclusion. The Alliance got their usual storyline of being the good guys of pureness and light and the Horde got turned into evil monsters for the glorious Human Alliance to destroy for "justice".
The Horde got nothing out of the Siege but the destruction of our entire identity, meanwhile the Alliance got their power bolstered and got to put the Horde on a leash.
Either you get the moral high ground, or you get cool mounts. It's a trade off.
You left out how Horde players got kicked in the junk storywise by forcing us into being "villains" for an Alliance-centric storyline. Again. We deserve a little compensation for Legion and having our image and characters slaughtered to prop up Alliance fist-pump moments.
"Everything is biased, everything is Horde, and you have to point it all out!"
Gee, it's almost like they are making the villains win a slew of early victories, in order to make the Alliance win utterly in the end. Just like with MoP.
I'm a Nightborne.
We also had far less characters to begin with. It's why killing so many Horde characters hurts far more: they never develop new Horde characters or leaders, and only ever develop Alliance characters.
It's really pathetic that they had to kill Vol'jin just to be able to "use" him as a character. Nazgrim is neutral.
10/30/2018 11:42 PMPosted by KelisariaGood. The Alliance deserved to lose some characters, for once, considering the massive Alliance character bloat that has existed since Vanilla.
10/30/2018 09:24 PMPosted by Porschea10/30/2018 11:41 AMPosted by EnekieBones thrown to the Horde: Cataclysm
Here's an interesting factoid for you:
The Horde received all that content in Cata because IT'S WHAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
The original Vanilla devs admitted that they knew the Alliance was going to be the more popular faction and thus their content got the majority of attention, and the Horde was consequently severely shortchanged.
Essentially it took three entire expansions before our base Vanilla content was finally finished. So if anything, that's an example of Alliance bias.
Sure, call the Dev a liar then. That's a developer's words, not mine.
Alliance never got anything like that, not even close and you can't even come up with an example.
Both got pretty much the same amount of content, horde's was just more repetitive.
The entire expac was based about "what's the horde identity?" and answering that question, not my fault you can't understand the narrative.
On a leash you say? funny how being on a leash didn't stop the Horde from attacking us in WoD and BFA anyway.
False equivalencies don't help your "argument".
Right, because the Alliance doesn't deserve anything after one of our races literally disappeared. How ridiculous.
And just like with MoP the Alliance will just "forgive" the Horde and get nothing you mean. The one thing we got, Dalaran, was returned to Neutral by legion, how laughable.
I'm a draenei.
10/31/2018 12:35 AMPosted by JohaƬsNotice how the best arguments that horde have is about lore, meanwhile, we're stuck with a dwindling alliance population because of years of neglect from the developers in raids and pvp.
10/31/2018 12:20 AMPosted by KelisariaAnd, yet, now the shoe is obviously on the other foot. Anduin and the Alliance are now the central characters of the game, yet you still bleat and whine about how awful you have it. All of the old devs are gone. There is no "Horde bias", and even the old devs, which at least liked the Horde, tried to give Alliance players something. Meanwhile, Alliance-favoring modern devs forgot the Horde existed for several expansions.
10/30/2018 08:26 PMPosted by JohaƬshttps://www.method.gg/board/content.php?172-Method-Faction-And-Realm-Change
10/31/2018 12:54 AMPosted by Justfrosty10/30/2018 08:26 PMPosted by JohaƬshttps://www.method.gg/board/content.php?172-Method-Faction-And-Realm-Change
here I saw what you posted. I don't see what you talking about. They said it was more balanced. the only reason they said that the transfer was the racial fit their raid style. that makes more sense they saying they went for better racial. that a total different thing. Style and better two different meanings. still say so you got one alliance guild that transferred so everyone followed them?
Care to explain please. I see some kind of argument my bee. But they was being shorted sighted if you think about. That bring up my issue with them having a access to raids before anyone else.
With Mists of Pandaria coming up and its Panda race, the balance in the āracials worldā will become a bit more even - a result of the new Panda racial 'Epicurean' that grants your character double stats from food buffs. Both factions will get access to this new race and as far as we can tell right now, this new racial is among the best if not the best for the viable classes. Howeverā¦ There are classes that cannot be Pandas, or simply wonāt be for the first tier of progress and this is the primary reason for the change. Horde racials have proved to be more beneficial and likely more suited to our play style in each past tier on boss fights that matter and this is a trend we expect to continue.
10/31/2018 12:57 AMPosted by JohaƬsThey literally state that racials were the reason they transferred. What more do you want? They acknowledged that with the addition of the Pandaren epicurian racial, that the situation would become more even -- meaning there was a disparity before. And they acknowledged that their reason for transfer was that it would, "...be more beneficial...on boss fights that matter," and that, "this is a trend we expect to continue."
10/31/2018 01:06 AMPosted by Justfrosty10/31/2018 12:57 AMPosted by JohaƬsThey literally state that racials were the reason they transferred. What more do you want? They acknowledged that with the addition of the Pandaren epicurian racial, that the situation would become more even -- meaning there was a disparity before. And they acknowledged that their reason for transfer was that it would, "...be more beneficial...on boss fights that matter," and that, "this is a trend we expect to continue."
That is my point it was heavy alliance side before. now they were balanced they switch side. Look at the word they used play style. Not better but play style. they said it was balance for both side. meaning equal. Once that become apparat that they no longer have a edge with racial. they then look and saw that horde for them had racial that fit them. it was no longer about the added perks as it was now balanced. They saw how it fit them in general. Thus , they changed because it no longer gave advantage given to them in past.
10/31/2018 12:20 AMPosted by KelisariaAnd, yet, now the shoe is obviously on the other foot. Anduin and the Alliance are now the central characters of the game, yet you still bleat and whine about how awful you have it. All of the old devs are gone. There is no "Horde bias", and even the old devs, which at least liked the Horde, tried to give Alliance players something. Meanwhile, Alliance-favoring modern devs forgot the Horde existed for several expansions.
10/31/2018 12:20 AMPosted by KelisariaSo, because you didn't get a zone turned into your Derp Lion, it's proof of evil bias? Kek. Pathetic.
10/31/2018 12:20 AMPosted by KelisariaThe Alliance had hundreds of more quests, 2-3 more zones, and vastly more art assets than the Horde.
10/31/2018 12:20 AMPosted by KelisariaI understand that that is the Horde "half" of the narrative. You do know that there are two separate narratives in this expansion, and not one, right? Alliance narrative is about how unified and perfect and morally righteous they are, and how the Horde needs to be exterminated. Horde narrative is... the Horde beating itself up. Again. We are getting a copy-paste plot from MoP. The Alliance is getting to be the heroes again.
10/31/2018 12:20 AMPosted by KelisariaHorde didn't attack you in WoD. PvP is non canon in general. BFA has you winning the war in the first patch.
10/31/2018 12:20 AMPosted by KelisariaOh, it's not a false equivalency. The super heroic faction gets horses, that's the price you pay for your glory and moral perfection. If you want ticks, raptors, undead horses, and wolves, the Horde is waiting for you. Because as long as you are the perfect and moral heroes, you don't get cool monster mounts, as good knights and hunters don't ride man-eating ticks and demons.
10/31/2018 12:20 AMPosted by KelisariaWell, seeing as Night Elves still exist, that means you are completely wrong. You can still make Night Elves, you are just lying about them "disappearing" so you can whine, and you even get a new customization for them.
10/31/2018 12:20 AMPosted by KelisariaThen maybe Alliance players should stop asking for faction wars for "justice" and learn the simple and valuable lesson that they will never give you guys what you want. Blizzard will never delete the Horde from the game. No matter how many crimes the Horde commits, the Alliance has to "forgive" (the Alliance are an army of bigots that hold every single Orcish child guilty for the crimes of Garrosh, so, storywise they have not and never will forgive the Horde) the Horde and let them live, otherwise half of the player base would be getting hosed.
So, stop setting your standards so high. The most you will get will be able to lecture the Horde and have the narrative crap on us for the rest of the game's lifespan. That should be more than enough.
10/31/2018 12:20 AMPosted by KelisariaThat, like all Alliance races, have vastly more customization options than their Horde counterparts.
There's no proof of any Alliance Dev other than Metzen who left, whereas proof of Horde devs is plenty.
10/31/2018 01:22 AMPosted by Justfrosty
The horde has been nothing but a punching bag since MOP and still they held heads up high. No matter how people spend it. Horde have not be given anything but you are evil and thus made into a revolving door. Yet no ones has broken their sprit to be the best. For some reason no one can see this.