What about Fear Ward though?
I mean in group pvp allies do have some nice abilities such as that and all of the pally buffs but horde does as well with windfury and tremor totem ect. so i donât think its enough to balance things out in many peopleâs perspectives.
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As an Ally player currently on a Horde dominated server I was actually glad to see the Horde/Ally imbalance, just the same as my original server back on Vanilla.
I donât gank people, but I do fight back and get revenge killings a lot.
It was fun to begin with, however now its getting very tedious. Constantly getting ganked by groups of 2+ horde that are several levels higher. Even if you get the upper hand on the group that killed you, as the only ally amongst a dozen or so horde questing in the area, they all turn into sharks that can smell blood as soon as they see you fighting, and quickly stomp on you.
I think what I enjoyed about Vanilla is that I had a couple of friends that I played with so the constant pvp was fun. A bit difficult to re-create that experience leveling solo.
I would recommend to anyone in my position⌠if your not planning on leveling with friends then switch to the dominate faction⌠or just just quit Vanilla and go back to retail like me =)
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Reroll stealth class and fight back using guerrilla warfare. Or reroll on pve server it is actually a pretty simple answer.
Yeah, this is truly non effective. If there are enemies near your level or any above, they will see you immediately. When it is 5-6+ v 1, then you just get instantly nuked.
P.S. my main is a rogue, so I try the whole: stealth around them bit.
This is a chronic problem on multiple servers, and creating visibility into it is the only way to have Blizzard implement any mitigation. Even just showing faction ratios for servers will help players choose accordingly.
Come try leveling past 20 on Heartseeker Horde, youâll see how it is. In two weeks, I have never seen BRM with anybody besides 10-15+ alliance. Horde just corpse run everywhere on the server.
No this a feature on PvP servers. PvP does not imply fair and or balanced. More so in a RPG where PvE is given priority. Also remember those who know how to use guerrilla warfare and focus on tactics will still win in the long run. If you cannot win against your enemy you make dam sure you bug the living crap out of them from stealth until they leave.
Have you played on one of the severely imba servers?
My main is Bene, we are definitely Horde skewed currently and it is noticeably much easier to finish objectives.
Iâve played PvP vanilla consistently since 2006. The imba here is incomparable. I can 3 v 1 regularly, and have no chance on Heartseeker.
When the conversation of multiple largest guilds consistently centers on members talking about how they canât level anywhere in the 40+ zones because there are 20 alliance to 1 horde and 60âs ganking non stop, this is not something simply countered or annoyed away.
How would it negatively impact you if Blizzard worked to balance servers better?t
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In vanilla I did never found myself locked into something I couldnt think a way out of. Right now I cant tell you because layering hasnt been fully disabled. Though last weekend got camped for a bit and even on hunter was able to circle around them and use methods to trick them.
No negative impact but you want balance that is what bgs will be for. Learn and Adapt or go pve server.
Iâve never encountered the level of imba right now. Yes, in any other vanilla server I can almost always workaround it.
There is no circling around 7 people nuking you that are 5-10 levels above you.
There avg. Horde player is taking 30-45 minutes to run from T. Point to BRD. T. Point had 30+ alliance and 2-3 Horde last night, Gadgetzan had 4:1. In 2 of my BRD groups I had 4 players /camp because there was nothing they could do to get out of T. Point.
I agree, there are times when you can get around it. In the massive faction skews we currently have, that is not an option.
The learn and adapt mentality will result in the same server balances we had at the end if vanilla before Paid CT was implemented. This is affecting thousands of people of both factions due to the limited amount of servers at launch, Iâve encountered less than 5 people who are on these servers and disagree. Those who do decent are rarely on the servers in question. Iâve played on three now, and donât have this issue on any besides the heavily imba servers. Bene is easy to level and win WPvP on, as is Faer. Heartseeker is near impossible.
PvP happened go PvE if you donât like it or play a alt. Think and adapt. Or you are trolling and will get in a trouble for that.
If I am trolling, so are thousands of people discussing this on the forums. Why do you think this topic thread even exists? Like you said, it doesnât impact you if servers are balanced; therefore, there should be consideration into resolutions to improve balance.
Have you only played on Bene?
It existed all the way until PvP Retail servers were closed down cause people like you didnât know how to reroll or transfer to PvE servers. You are the vocal minority but you scream more then any child I have ever known.
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Your utilization of ad hominem while simultaneously calling someone childish is very cute.
In retail, there were efforts taken toward balance in vanilla such as Paid CT.
In summary, you donât experience it and think simply playing better will resolve it. You think nobody else has played PvP in vanilla. Further, youâve stated that implementation of server balance tools such as publishing faction ratios would not impact you.
What are you even arguing against? You also havenât indicated if youâve played on any other server past 30.
I just like how people just role on PvP then complain to no end. You and people like you forced Blizzard to remove PvP servers on retail. You legit said to yourself if I cant have fun and understand server types I will ruin it for everyone who enjoyed PvP servers. You and people like you helped kill Retail and that wasnt good enough for you so now you followed us to Classic to do the same.
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I actually prefer PvP and didnât experience their removal: I never stopped playing PvP servers from Van-WotLK and pservs.
The ignorance of the issue due to Blizzard not publishing pop data is what catalyzed the removal of them. Simply showing what the pop skew is and allowing people to transfer will help alleviate this and ensure PvP servers remain.
While you are content with thinking: I have a good experience, so therefore anyone not is simply a lesser player or doesnât like PvP. I would prefer relatively balanced servers to promote WPvP.
Once again, you havent indicated if youâve played another server besides Bene. Nor why adding features such as those mentioned is worth arguing against.
I posted above my answer to that. Vanilla thru Wotlk played on several PvP servers. Worst was most likely Alterac Mountains as Horde which at time was only 20% of the overall population. I didnât complain. Though I like a challenge and understood PvP on the server tag.
Iâm glad you understood it, as I hope all players that join these servers do. I also hope they maintain good populations, which is less likely with severe pop skews.
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I looked and couldnât find it.
Oh look, a Orc Hunterd 
So people cry about que times⌠they add servers⌠and tell you to reroll⌠people cry about that and want free xers⌠they give you free exfersâŚpeople cry about them adding servers and people xfering offâŚ
You people on these forums really are some of the worst no life cry babies I have ever seenâŚ
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