Alliance are fleeing via Free Transfer, faction imbalance worsened

[Ashanor-grobbulus]

Nope. I know of at least two servers with near perfect 50/50.

[Djinndark-turalyon]

So how do you know that isn’t why most of them transferred? You’re just assuming.

[Obi-sisters-of-elune]

Can you prove any of this or are you pulling numbers out of your rectum?

I feel like you’re not taking him seriously. EVERY server is now 90% horde. Never mind how math works and that the difference in alliance transferring off would have to be represented somewhere. EVERY server is now 90% horde thanks to transfers. The literal worst. Ugh. Thanks Blizzard. /s

I’d like to see the math on that one

100% of servers are 90% Horde
Are all of the alliance players deleting their characters? Canceling their accounts?

[Espur-whitemane]

I’d like to see the math on that one

100% of servers are 90% Horde
Are all of the alliance players deleting their characters? Canceling their accounts?

I woke up today and my Night Elf was an Orc. I was shocked - SHOCKED! - and appalled!

[Obi-sisters-of-elune]

I’d like to see the math on that one

100% of servers are 90% Horde
Are all of the alliance players deleting their characters? Canceling their accounts?

I woke up today and my Night Elf was an Orc. I was shocked - SHOCKED! - and appalled!

Welcome to the 90%!

[Revolutionx-anathema]

The faction balance on most realms was roughly 60/40 in favor of Horde, which made leveling and farming difficult for Alliance. As a result, they are the majority taking advantage of Free Transfers. Now, the target realms are bloated with Alliance and the realms they left are 80-90%+ Horde.

Blame yourself bruh.

YOU ARE HORDE.

LOL.

[Dommont-saurfang]

I’m just pointing out that trade off. If you want balance realms, you are going to have to give up the freedom to play in specific factions on specific servers.

Limiting character creation is the least disruptive option.

[anon83669306]

Offer transfers only to the majority faction if the faction ratio is above 55/45. Allow both factions to transfer out only when the ratio reaches 50/50 again.

Soooo, how many Horde have taken advantage of the transfers? They must all be rushing to go where there are lots of Alliance to hunt … right? /s (And how does this do anything positive for the destination realms? Limit transfers and it would just make another Horde dominated server. Congrats?)

Block character creation on the majority faction by players who do not already have a character on the server when the faction ratio exceeds 55/45. Character creation for both factions will be re-enabled when the ratio cross the 50/50 threshold.

So no one bothers to roll on the realm - those who want to be Horde because they’re blocked and those who want to be Alliance because they have no desire to be the underdog and will seek out a realm where they’re more even or have the upper hand.

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Seriously, if it’s such a massive problem, start telling your fellow Hordies to transfer to reduce the excessive population or to reroll. (I get tired of the people on the majority faction blaming those who flee, when not ONE of them would willingly reroll Alliance to create more balance.)

[Antebellum-incendius]

Language	Type	Realm	Alliance	Horde	Total	Alliance %	Horde %
English	PVP	Anathema	7010	4153	11163	63%	37%
English	PVP	Arcanite Reaper	3313	2897	6210	53%	47%
English	PVP	Arugal	21424	35084	56508	38%	62%
English	Normal	Ashkandi	11256	9061	20317	55%	45%
English	Normal	Atiesh	63510	32230	95740	66%	34%
English	Normal	Azuresong	22990	10860	33850	68%	32%
English	PVP	Benediction	37766	35227	72993	52%	48%
English	PVP	Bigglesworth	31946	40638	72584	44%	56%
English	PVP	Blaumeux	30849	30944	61793	50%	50%
English	RP	Bloodsail Buccaneers	53375	27575	80950	66%	34%
English	RPPVP	Deviate Delight	20164	14484	34648	58%	42%
English	PVP	Earthfury	4297	5228	9525	45%	55%
English	PVP	Faerlina	37321	33778	71099	52%	48%
English	PVP	Fairbanks	29765	43563	73328	41%	59%
English	PVP	Felstriker	6934	9569	16503	42%	58%
English	RPPVP	Grobbulus	37467	36379	73846	51%	49%
English	PVP	Heartseeker	5515	4618	10133	54%	46%
English	PVP	Herod	25419	40697	66116	38%	62%
English	PVP	Incendius	31480	38249	69729	45%	55%
English	PVP	Kirtonos	26087	45899	71986	36%	64%
English	PVP	Kromcrush	31387	33538	64925	48%	52%
English	PVP	Kurinnaxx	17108	25108	42216	41%	59%
English	Normal	Mankrik	31805	47044	78849	40%	60%
English	Normal	Myzrael	39896	22743	62639	64%	36%
English	PVP	Netherwind	16962	15018	31980	53%	47%
English	Normal	Old Blanchy	35017	25676	60693	58%	42%
English	Normal	Pagle	73633	26373	100006	74%	26%
English	PVP	Rattlegore	29993	35020	65013	46%	54%
English	Normal	Remulos	33661	16787	50448	67%	33%
English	PVP	Skeram	22670	41426	64096	35%	65%
English	PVP	Smolderweb	18345	20890	39235	47%	53%
English	PVP	Stalagg	25309	51909	77218	33%	67%
English	PVP	Sulfuras	35231	39902	75133	47%	53%
English	PVP	Thalnos	30243	52435	82678	37%	63%
English	PVP	Thunderfury	24242	32984	57226	42%	58%
English	Normal	Westfall	63005	22285	85290	74%	26%
English	PVP	Whitemane	34103	42053	76156	45%	55%
English	Normal	Windseeker	15254	11404	26658	57%	43%
English	PVP	Yojamba	22744	34764	57508	40%	60%
		Total Normal	390027	224463	614490	63%	37%
		Total PvP	607463	795591	1403054	43%	57%
		Total RP+RPPVP	111006	78438	189444	59%	41%
		Total	1108496	1098492	2206988	50%	50%

Like most realms seem 45-55 … this is from wowhead btw

[Dommont-saurfang]

Soooo, how many Horde have taken advantage of the transfers? They must all be rushing to go where there are lots of Alliance to hunt … right? /s (And how does this do anything positive for the destination realms? Limit transfers and it would just make another Horde dominated server. Congrats?)

Transfers are to ease congestion. Nothing more.

If a server to too crowded and is imbalanced. It make sense to allow only the majority faction players to transfer out.

So no one bothers to roll on the realm - those who want to be Horde because they’re blocked and those who want to be Alliance because they have no desire to be the underdog and will seek out a realm where they’re more even or have the upper hand.

This is why I use ratios like 55/45. It’s not too bad yet. Corrective policy should go into effect then.

Seriously, if it’s such a massive problem, start telling your fellow Hordies to transfer to reduce the excessive population or to reroll. (I get tired of the people on the majority faction blaming those who flee, when not ONE of them would willingly reroll Alliance to create more balance.)

I … don’t really care to be frank. I’m on a PVE server. LOL

People want a solution to faction imbalance … so I proposed the least disruptive one that I can think of.

[anon83669306]

Transfers are to ease congestion. Nothing more.

If a server to too crowded and is imbalanced. It make sense to allow only the majority faction players to transfer out.

And the question is - would Horde transfer out if they were the only ones with the option? After all, they’re not transferring in large numbers when it’s open to both.

I … don’t really care to be frank. I’m on a PVE server. LOL

To be fair, so am I. The only PvP character I have is on Grobbulus - RP-PvP - which has a really nice balance and realm pride. (That name kind of made us Grobb mob gang up and build pride even before release.)

EDIT: I just don’t think there is a real solution because of human behavior. The idea that gating would magically lead to the majority faction transferring and people rolling on the minority faction … is overly optimistic.

[Nirene-pagle]

Working as intended.

[Gadrin-feathermoon]

im horde i Left for heartseeker. I don’t like one faction dominating another. Im fine 55-45 at best any direction. Once its 60/40 it begins to be a little crappy.

[Imirak-mankrik]

Is that what the carebears tell themselves these days? world pvp on pve servers is a pathetic. People playing both factions. People “tricking” others into getting flagged so they can get the jump.

It’s sad asf.

Is that what the carebears think good world pvp is?

No of course it’s a ganking zone with an 80:20 faction balance.

[Dommont-saurfang]

And the question is - would Horde transfer out if they were the only ones with the option? After all, they’re not transferring in large numbers when it’s open to both.

If they want to avoid the queue enough …

EDIT: I just don’t think there is a real solution because of human behavior. The idea that gating would magically lead to the majority faction transferring and people rolling on the minority faction … is overly optimistic.

At the very least it will prevent the situation from worsening.

Frankly, locking the players into a faction based on their character’s race is, in hindsight, a pretty dumb way to do faction PVP. If players could switch faction on a whim, Blizzard could change the rewards given out to players of each faction and let “market forces” do their thing.

[Ghostness-hyjal]

How did blizzard fail? They didn’t put a faction cap. I’m from whitemane and it’s flooded with horde. Every turn you make there is horde. If you look at census, it’s not accurate because of layering. I can tell you now, Whitemane is 7:3 horde.

[Michaeas-remulos]

They shouldn’t even call them PvP servers. They should call them Pro-Horde or Pro-Alliance servers, wherein it’s just a harder difficulty server for the lesser populated faction. “Harassment servers.”

Love it! Quoted for Truth!! LoL

Thanks.

[Jamalia-bloodsail-buccaneers]

PVP happened on a PVP server, and people who weren’t having fun left. Maybe if you let them live a bit more, they wouldn’t have left. That’s PVP.

: )

[Cruelcumber-heartseeker]

I’m on heartseeker where all the alliance transferred. I came to the server to avoid ques but now every zone i’m in is reading about alliance everywhere in general chat complaining about being ganked 5v1, the rumors are definitely true and i hope pops can balance out on servers it really does kill the fun for everyone with all servers being so lop sided.

[Agrippa-deviate-delight]

If you are outnumbered 5 or 6 to 1 and you want off that server and are told “no, only the dominant faction can do that,” you are going to be furious and likely quit. Assuming otherwise is diningenuous at best.