No it couldn’t and wouldn’t, the spell would ultimately make us a must have for any raid fight with extended cleave and a huge part of m+ meta.
I think you are projecting a little bit to much here.
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no, I just remember it quite well. Look at fights in wod alone that had like the twins and the sisters, ww was middle of the pack st and god kings on those fights.
(Can’t recall mop fights enough, except like the first raid boss of the xpac the dogs.)
Sef only problem was monks who didn’t bother to read that it was useless in st.
That and you wanted a mouse over macro to make things 100% easier.
But in pvp was a powerful spell in cleave comps
I don’t want the world you speak of back, I don’t want it being a cleave only spell, and yeah I remember wod monk, I don’t want the brew mechanic to return either.
I don’t consider it the pinnacle of the class even remotely, I much enjoy the legion variation and so forth, it just has tuning issues.
I don’t even recall hearing ppl ever complain about any st issues with the clones either.
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Yeah I hated the tod change and sef change, both were dumb.
Also hate another ai spell (xuen becoming as big as it is)
So you like the dumbed down version of WW is all I am seeing. Only good thing in legion* was the fof spirits and strike of the windlord
Edit: dont take what I said the wrong way, not saying you are dumb just said ww got dumbed down.
I like the choice because it fits the class and takes it off the talent selection so u can have more meaningful rotational choice then a fire and forget ability.
it also struggled with performance in the past but was to pretty and iconic to render it useless forever.
And I like having lots of buttons and a fun rotation, I didn’t have that with the brew mechanic, I am someone that wants as many buttons as possible.
Xuen even helps your rotation now, have u read the changes?
if you are talking xuen, all of his functions could have been removed off an AI model and just been a buff we put on ourselves.
Which would thematically make more sense, especially in D&D when you invoke your Patron “God” they usually just send a portion of their power through their subordinate and not sending a literal piece of himself consciousness and all.
Also a buff on ourselves would fix the concern of xuen jumping off to nowhere pulling packs like an idiot in m+ or breaking ccs
We have less buttons in our rotation now then we once did, and if you want to talk about using meaningful rotation choices, then chi xplos was 10 times better than anything post legion so far.
Take inspiration from dnd, but don’t let it box your thinking, summoning Xuen is really cool and the model is pretty and help us out in multiple ways.
and I don’t believe this pet argument is for a second about pet AI, xuen doesn’t even last that long and players will know when not to use it, and it wont be some giant dps loss either.
He isn’t an imp and his implementation is great, they made him more meaningful.
Also I would love even more rotational buttons if they want to give them to me, as long as they aren’t wod brew.
Great it’s cool, makes zero sense in a lore perspective. He is a literal Wild God who has tasked himself with not only teaching an entire people, but also his duties as a guardian of the land.
It’s like calling on the horn for air support and getting the president flying in to provide it.
As well it’s an invoke meaning technically speaking he can ignore your call in the attempts to summon him.
It makes more sense if he trusts your judgement enough to allow you to channel his power if you need it and handle it.
And you said I was projecting.
Go back and look at any of my posts about sef and see how I been hating on AI based cds this whole time.
It’s one of the reasons I quit at launch of legion because I hated it that much and WW is the only spec I have wanted to main since mop beta.
I have had to have a cancel aura macro since the introduction of the azerite trait that summons one for 8 seconds because I personally seen him pull extra packs in m+.
What does this have to do with anything?
I didn’t say anything about the dmg, just that you have zero control over him and it’s dumb and will be incredibly crap in pvp too.
Because it’s another ai cd that can be independently cc’d from ourselves killing our dmg in pvp.
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He is a pet now and we can order him around I believe.
And it makes perfect sense from a lore perspective so I really don’t think you should try to invoke that arguement given how many avatars of godly beings and less we have seen in game, especially with loa.
This insistence is leading me back to the box thinking argument when you invoked dnd, this isn’t dnd and we have a crap ton of lore to pull on off, and yes, it makes perfect sense.
Stop being an origin loyalist and open up to change, I have been loving the changes while you want to remain stagnant and even lie to strawman your argument.
he is a guardian and he will function exactly like he does now, minus an extra passive effect.
He isn’t considered a pet because then all monks would have to be orcs.
That are on their own agenda, not one of ours.
Saying an opinion without giving an argument as to why, doesn’t make it so.
I am fine with change, as long as it’s not a dumbing down and makes sense.
Summoning a wild god to our sides makes zero, especially since he has much more important duties than to answer our every whim.
Like I don’t like the special snowflake direction wow has taken since wod onwards. The story was always better when we weren’t the center of attention in the story and instead just a random faceless adventure.
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Dude, I explained why it makes sense and you readily dismissed it as if it was a logical maxim, we can already invoke his avatar, that in itself is already proof, arguing against this to prop up your god buff is just silly and self moronic.
I can’t more on this if you are going to purposely blind yourself to suit a narrative.
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No you said it was really cool, you have yet to once say how it fits the lore.
And if the forums from mop weren’t deleted I would link you my huge post from MoP detailing how the invoke spells should have been buffs and we were the avatars than summoning an important figure like one of the major gods of the land to our side.
I have at least supported my argument, saying it’s always been so and it looks cool doesn’t mean it makes sense in the lore.
I wouldn’t shed a tear if tomorrow they said invoke spells were being removed completely.
If I cared about having some kind of god buff I would go back to playing paladin, I like monk because in a world of wizards and knights, the dude wearing light to no armor and kicking your butt with just the fist is hardcore awesome.
You want to summon a bunch of pets go play beastmaster hunter or demo lock.
Like the hypocrisy from you is truly staggering.
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I don’t personally like the summon spells in the monk spell list, with that being said.
Summon Xuen, Niuzao, Yulon and Chi-ji are described " summon an effigy of …" You’re not summoning the actual Xuen, you’re just summoning a small fraction of his power, it might not even be his power, it might be your own chi assuming the form of Xuen for a while.
Do we know what the deal with MW and Bonedust brew is yet?
I just learned about the change of Blackout Strike to Blackout Kick and now I’m quite upset. After everything else that they’ve done to ruin monks, they’re even taking away the last ability that actually utilizes a weapon?
Can we please at least get some glyphs or something? Give Tiger Palm and Blackout Kick glyphs that use weapon animations. If it’s a development bandwidth issue, hit me up, I’ll do it free of charge.
They fixed it, it doesn’t cleave vivify or act like renewing mist anymore, and its now one of the less strong options with the changes made to Faeline Stomp. Fallen Order is looking BIS right now, but that still could change. Bonedust Brew behaves as the tooltip says it should.
That’s disappointing. I was hoping it was working more or less as intended and the tooltip was wrong. That said I do like FS too. Is FS looking like a strong pick for BM too?
I don’t play BrM much, so I’m not super up to date on their covenant choices, but from what I hear Faeline is pretty weak for them, being just a slightly different flavored chi burst.
Yeah I’m 100% certain they did this because it was easier than adding a duel wield Blackout Strike animation.