Quantity <> quality.
I’ll have to visit for ideas! All I’ve got there is a small guar pack, a drunken Alfiq and some wine bottles. I’m still letting ideas bounce around in my head. I was thinking about making it into an all Alliance meeting area with shields, banners etc from each faction. A barracks, tents on the beach, meeting area with maps. But I’ll have to pic a couple alts to try to farm AP with if I want that. We’ll see!.
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ESO does -very- good player housing. That’s the one thing I’ll give it, and being able to just do elder scrolls stuff is fun from time to time.
RP scene isn’t too bad.
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One raid so far. Going by previous expansions, we will have between 4 and 5 raids (one of which may be a mini raid).
ESO is designed to tempt people to play it by offering a free to play option. And it is possible to pay without paying anything beyond the cost of purchasing the base game, but it’s extremely limited. They work it on the idea that people will enjoy it and find that they need to get the extra options (like the unlimited materials storage system) that a subscription offers. And they put out fairly regular what are effectively small expansion which you have to pay for as well.
And they have a very large shop. There is nothing in the shop that could be called loot boxes (as in containing P2W type items) but they are all created to tempt people to pay more money, including things like very frequent limited time mounts which are often beautiful. And yes, they do h ave player housing but, aside from a free room at an inn, every house has to be purchased. So it’s another hand out for your wallet.
By comparison, WoW’s system is a lot more user-friendly as far as money goes.
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wow is a subscription no matter how you slice it. You’re either spending rw cash for your game time because your rw time is more valuable… or you’re spending in game time to acquire a currency to purchase game time…
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Had the best of both worlds in a couple of earlier expansions: you could do missions for really decent gold and that of course took almost nothing of your time - just visit mission table and set them loose.
Sadly those golden days are gone.
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If wow did that I would be the happiest player. But wow players get all pissed because “MuH ScAlInG”
By zone do you mean a continent for ESO ?? cause they are massive
there is so much space and build room you can do some super unique stuff. I’ve gone very argonian mage/artificer with mine lol, though I’ve moved the more dangerous experiments and artifacts to a different location after an incident involving minor daedra from the shivering isles
For something to be good value, it has to be good.
This is something many players who defend ESO fail to recognize as a con as well. I had trials/dungeons come out where nothing dropped that I wanted to use. So maybe run it once for the story, then never touch it and go back the same trials/dungeons I have been doing for years.
ESO barely has gear incentive for new content, because their structure makes all old gear good infinitely. My Hundings or NMG might not be the best now, but it’s close, and in a few months it may be the best again. The lack of gear incentive really kills the drive to repeat content. The only thing worth chasing is achievements.
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And that’s the difficult balance to achieve.
If you try and minimise crafting and maximise loot drops, you make crafting basically useless. But if you make crafted sets as good as what drops, then doing content that drops gear becomes irrelevant and people get bored.
That’s the juggling act Blizzard is constantly trying to perfect and I don’t envy them.
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Huh? Loot boxes doesn’t mean “P2W” items…it means randomized loot that you pay for…so you pay for a CHANCE to obtain whatever loot they’re saying exists in the box but no guarantee you’ll get it.
ESO calls their loot boxes crown crates…
“In video games, a loot box is a consumable virtual item which can be redeemed to receive a randomised selection of further virtual items, or loot, ranging from simple customization options for a player’s avatar or character, to game-changing equipment such as weapons and armor.”
LOL. When was the last time WoW’s “open world” was difficult?
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Really nice! I may steal that idea with the create of statues for my thieves den. I can tell you really like the outdoor areas. Though needs a sign warning of potential guard tramplings! XD
I am @Vhale in ESO if you want to poke at my homes. But I only have 3 fully set up and one in progress. Wraithome (Hlaalu), Mournhold Keep (orcish) and Enchanted Snowglobe house (Breton/Dwarven/Imperial). I had my crafting stations in Wraithome but pulled them to the Snowglobe for the New Life festival, yet haven’t put them back yet. My current project is Bouldertree Refuge. I’ve been trying to get a couple more Telvanni patterns to finish it up but that’s slow going. Not that I mind, just won’t be finished for, whenever 
It is covered with glowing plants.
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aweeee ESO players in their natural habitat…cute.
But, like, more importantly, I’d have to play ESO, which is reason enough not to have an ESO subscription or pay for content.
In all seriousness though, I thought WoW was a hot mess (and, I mean, it is) but when I tried ESO and some other games I realised WoW is a shiny gem by comparison. Yes, there are so many ways the game could be better, but at least it’s playable. ESO requires several hours of YouTube tutorials just to START playing or you do what I did and run around in circles for hours not understanding where to go or how to do literally anything (and getting seasick from the fact that the mouse is locked to the camera, something I’m finding is waaay to common in other games). Then you end up in some other zone not understanding how to get back where you were. It’s like they built a sandbox but took away your pails and shovels and never told you there was a forest nearby where you could get mats to build the pails and shovels you didn’t even know you needed. I understand some people like that but I fall firmly into the camp of “what info I need to succeed in the game should be available in the game”. WoW has a problem with this too, hence wowhead and icyveins, but I didn’t need to two hour YouTube tutorial just to figure out what to do with my first level one toon. The game scaffolds new players (somewhat) to help you learn the basics before being unleashed on the world. Also, WoW doesn’t make me seasick lol.
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I’ve played ESO. loved Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim… yet… ESO sits collecting dust and I have to delete characters to make new ones in wow from hitting the character cap…
Steal it! Whenever the furnishing limit is increased I want to add the Nordic fishing boat to that dock. I’ll swing by your places in between killing people in cyrodiil, I’m enjoying mid year mayhem lol
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aweeee a WoW player who is jealous…cute.
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