Don’t forget about the sh1t performance and outrageous crown prices.
They have like 6 mount skeletons in total and the nice reskins are behind LOOT boxes. It’s sick.
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I’m not sure what gave you the idea that open world is somehow intrinsic to loading screens, but were that the case, then literally no game would be an open world experience. Every open world has loading screens, even Breath of the Wild and Witcher 3.
Open world, at its core in regards to content and design, has everything to do with how freeform and sandbox-oriented it is. How much can you do in the world, and are you able to do it in any order you wish? Are there multiple ways of approaching that content (stealth, combat, etc.), and are there different outcomes (note that this is not crucial to an open world experience, but does inform the idea of a game being “open”)? These are what make a game open world. There are multiple ways of making a game open world, but the genre doesn’t live or die by whether or not the game has loading screens.
Okay, but that’s not what I was talking about. I’m inclined to agree with you, but your point was that ESO zones from previous expansions were dead. I’m telling you that’s wrong simply because of how the game is designed. You are not gated to content just because of your level in ESO, nor are you tied to a linear questline in order to “complete” the game. Everything about ESO is much more freeform and open than WoW is, and because of that, older content is still relevant, making older zones more populated for those who may not have done them yet.
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To people that like ESO better, this post is irrefutable proof that the OP likes WoW more.
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This is 100%
And?
I don’t play ESO, I play WoW
I’d love to have draw distance be the limiting factor and flying, instead of cliffs
During the sham they call leveling in SL I ran over every inch of the zones (except the maw because screw the maw). The exploration part of the MMO has been designed out of WoW and I suspect some bean countery is afoot.
BC/WotLK/Cata/MoP all had elements of the game designed around flight.
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They’re working on the performance issues. They actually never expected the game to get as big as it is. I believe they’re adding more servers also. And if you want to talk performance, WoW isn’t doing so hot either actually.
The crown store, LOL there is nothing in there you have to have. And if you really want something but don’t want to buy crowns then find a whale and trade gold for them gifting you the items, that’s what I do. I have crown crate apex mounts from getting crates gifted via gold.
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Yeah you may have been playing skyrim
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What do you mean “and”, this entire thread is about WoW vs. ESO and WoW offering the better value. You’re the one bringing in a statement saying blizz isn’t letting us fly because of the “sMaLl ZoNeS” so I’m telling you, ESO doesnt’ have flying period for the reasons I stated.
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I don’t mind the combat in ESO, but I do like the classes here much better. Also, ESO couldn’t for the life of them manage pet classes/management. One thing I do miss in ESO is the quest dialogue. AAA+
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I never said you NEEDED to buy anything from the crown shop, I said they gated the NICEST looking mount reskins behind LOOT BOXES in the crown shop.
It’s disgusting.
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Good thing there are no complaints about WoW’s server stability then 
Yeah at least WoW charges you a flat rate for their mounts 
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Wow sells us an expansion that has destroyed many of our classes we main and are forced to reroll or unsub, timegating, massive PVP imbalance, massive PVE imbalance, no PVP progression PVErs stomp PVPers because of gear gap, game is nothing but boring chores, no rewards, and the Bliz developers will not answer any questions ,dismiss its customers like garbage. I think WOW has sank since we have had these new developers they don’t care about the game or its loyal customers, I don’t think we have not gotten our money’s worth with SL, we got ripped off
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Look again. In ESO the greater majority of the zone is used, rarely is there dead space and when there is it’s small. In WoW on average a third to half the zone is unusued, it’s just mountains with nothing there.
And I just told you how to get anything from the crates for free, join at least two trading guilds and I guarantee you there will be a whale. Earn gold in-game and get them to gift you the boxes.
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I think combat and lack of an AH are more universal problems, while performance and Crown cost/rmt’s are more personal player to player. YMMV.
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Wow has the best endgame out of all mmos imo, I have tried many ff14, eso, guildwars, lotro, starwars and none of them compare to wows end game. Obvs my opinion if you like one or more better than wow why are you in the wow forums?
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Yeah, you’re a fanboy. Not a single objective comment has come out of any of your posts.
If you’re defending the practice of putting the nicest looking mount reskins behind LOOT BOXES idk what else to tell you. It’s a disgusting practice when the available mounts you can obtain in the open world is already paltry compared to WoW. It’s not even a contest.
There’s so much more content here in WoW that so many of you naysayers are proving the point of why this GD is so negatively toxic. HUNDREDS of mounts in WoW and many with unique skeletons, compare this to ESO please. Do the pets next and armor styles.
Get real.
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You are really hung up on mounts. There is a lot more to ESO than mounts LOL. But if that’s your thing then yeah you’ll do better in WoW.
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because it’s one of the biggest things they thrown in our faces locked behind loot boxes that’s why.
ESO does NOT have more content than WoW.
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One of the premises of that argument is that WoW expansions have more zones therefore more value
This is a ridiculous statement
I don’t play ESO so I can’t compare the two but I can recognize “wow has 5 eso has 1 so wow better” as BS
I have done everything but the raid in this expansion, and had it done within a month so to me SL has a really low value
You can say that’s impossible because things weren’t unlocked within a month and I will counter with "If its locked and I can’t do anything about it, I don’t consider it to be “in the game” "
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For new content, this is true; however ESO has the biggest advantage that old content isn’t immediately invalidated upon next release.
The progression system is virtually flat, very minor DPS increases in-between expansions in the form of different sets and build diversity is insanely high (though there will always exist a BiS).
For instance, a player with a maxed set from the base game can be just as effective as a player with the newest endgame set; it’s just how much easier it is to hit peak damage and the theme around your build.
As a result all content remains relevant until they either raise the veteran level (which I don’t see happening) and they have since stopped increasing the champion level.
Edit: I should also note that power isn’t fully locked behind difficult content either, you just have to pay a pretty hefty upgrade cost; lower difficulty content drops blues or greens compared to purples and golds and you can use a crafting table and rare materials to upgrade a blue into a purple to then into a gold.
You can even ignore raids completely if desired, the only major advantage to them is that the gear from grants a % modifier when running only that content.
ESO is likely the best “casual” MMO on market IMHO; it’s just a shame the combat system is pretty funky and the graphics are locked behind that terrible game engine.
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