Adventures Companions Updates Now Live

[Vokire-cenarion-circle]

@Taleranor-kirin-tor

All the people who have no sympathy are the ones f***ed over by the same broken system, and it’s laughable. Imagine, being glad that other players are being screwed because Blizzard put out a broken and imbalanced system, instead of arguing for a full-on reform to make it fair and balanced and accessible for everyone.

You’re not screwed at all. You progressed beyond reasonable means (completed grossly above level), obtained rewards that were more… rewarding, and now you’re mad because you don’t have an “I WIN” formation for content you should not have been able to beat.

Guess how you progress now? You fail at the missions which give you experience until your people are the appropriate level. Your abnormally significant rewards gained from abuse of a mechanic, knowingly or not, will normalize versus those who were not afforded such an opportunity to abuse the system. Most Night Fae player suggestions have been:

“Let me keep my ill gotten rewards and resources! Just bring my table back to my followers levels so I can win again and still be ahead of other Covenants!!!”

Or

“Let me keep winning at content way above my level so I don’t have to lose and I can keep my rewards and resources and be ahead of other Covenants!”

@Virus-nagrand

Ummmm no, i was just dragging followers into little slots and starting missions, i didn’t know what level they were or how strong they were,

https://giphy.com/gifs/9G3wg7lH5DpxC

How fortunate it is that you’ve now learned about follower levels after the fix! [edit: the prior sentence is intended to be a joke] In all honestly, if you didn’t even know followers had levels or missions had levels… how have you managed to do anything in-game? It’s blatantly obvious there are mission levels and follower levels. I’m pretty sure the intro to the table even tells you so. I’m genuinely not trying to be inflammatory - I just don’t understand how you could have really not known there were mission levels and follower levels. I can understand there are some confusing aspects or elements to the mission table, but not missions having levels or followers having levels. Followers even level up periodically at the end of missions. You’d have to be blind not to realize.

I will agree that indicating a % chance of success might be nice, but I think this implementation of the mission table is meant to be more strategy oriented than roll the dice oriented we have seen (to some degree) with previous expansion mission tables.

[Virus-nagrand (Virus)]

@Vokire-cenarion-circle

how have you managed to do anything in-game?

I just don’t care about table stuff and never really give it much of my attention other than stopping, throwing a heap of missions together and then coming back the next day (if i remember). Now that my missions mostly fail and i have very little anima coming in, my table and my covenant upgrades/systems are all sitting there unused.

[Vokire-cenarion-circle]

A few suggestions: don’t use anima to heal your peeps haha. It’s not worth it. Even if you fail missions, you gain experience. Look into Venture Plan. It’s an add on which can help you figure out best troop combos or which missions give most experience, etc.

Wowhead post an article giving you a preview of the add on. It will help make the table somewhat more understandable. It also has a book you click on indicating whether you will succeed or fail after putting your peeps in their slots.

[Virus-nagrand (Virus)]

@Vokire-cenarion-circle

don’t use anima to heal your peeps

Yeah, i never do because the cost of healing always exceeds my total amount of anima lol

I think having a decent understanding of the table isn’t going to help me much because my level of engagement in the game just doesn’t bring in enough anima to participate in all of the covenant systems, i do my daily calling, a few M+ and a raid on the weekend, that’s pretty much it. No way in hell i’m running around doing dozens of WQ each week just to support my covenant upgrade progression, it can all sit there unused as far as i’m concerned.

[Gorewind-tichondrius]

Get rid of archeology and yet they keep the worst system they’ve ever developed

Just stop blizz. How many times are you going to reinvent the mission table before you realize its not fun?

[Leafblight-dark-iron (Leafblight)]

I’m actively doing anima quests, any that are 2+, pretty much daily.

I’m still struggling to hit that 10k mark for my next upgrade. I have anima conductor level 3 unlocked but the missions aren’t NEARLY as lucrative anymore. Most of the time they dont’ even reward anima anymore, and when they do its 2 or 3 instead of 3 or 4.

[Ender-maelstrom]

Except yes, Night Fae are screwed. Once you’ve done the campaign missions, the costs to level companions is much, much higher, both in anima and time. You are acting like Night Fae now have to deal with what other covenants had to deal with, which is a bunch of BS. Other covenants never needed to spend 50k+ anima, losing every mission for 3 months, to have a shot at successfully completing a mission. But that is where Night Fae are now.

You’re attitude is the same as me suggesting that since Fire Mage’s are currently one of the more powerful specs in PvP; it would be perfectly fine if their spec was completely unplayable in PvP for all of 9.1.

Stop with the petty BS. Make the gamae playable and reasonable, it’s not NF players fault WoW devs screwed up the table and left it that way for months.

[Leafblight-dark-iron (Leafblight)]

@Ender-maelstrom

You’re attitude is the same as me suggesting that since Fire Mage’s are currently one of the more powerful specs in PvP; it would be perfectly fine if their spec was completely unplayable in PvP for all of 9.1.

As an Affliction warlock who experienced just that in M+ going from Legion to BFA…

[Ardrienn-stormrage]

Love those salty NF tears. I mean come on man, y’all knew that crap was broke AF and just kept on doing those higher and higher missions.

[Tristin-stormreaver]

As Venthyr, anything with a silver dragon always failed for me. Now I understand why. Blizz yet again put a system in place with no thought put towards it.

[Virus-nagrand (Virus)]

@Ardrienn-stormrage

I mean come on man, y’all knew that crap was broke AF and just kept on doing those higher and higher missions.

How on earth would i know that it was broken if i wasn’t playing any other covenant, i was just sending missions off and thinking to myself how janky this new table is compared to previous expansions, it feels like i’m still in beta. It’s silly to just assume the worst of everyone.

[Ardrienn-stormrage]

First time on the forums? Never saw any threads from Kyrian or Venthyr players? GTFOH

[Denyel-tichondrius]

I don’t believe it. You log in to do Missions, and log out again? Don’t they have an app for that?

[Meriweather-thunderlord]

@Phearbunny-bleeding-hollow

Mission tables are literally 100% irrelavant.

This just isn’t true. The tables drop augment runes, battle pets, pet coins, and mounts. That is very relevant to many of us.

The tables also drop 184 gear if you get them high enough, and for my alts…that’ll be relevant.

@Phearbunny-bleeding-hollow

The actual game is in shambles, and needs to be balanced before they waste time on garbage like mission table tuning.

This really is a false scarcity notion. They ARE working on balance and bigger issues in the game. They fact that they gave the mission tables a pass does not equal ignoring the rest of the game.

The idea that working on one thing means they’re not fixing other stuff makes no sense. I can clean my kitchen AND dust the bookshelves in the living room on the same day.

[Narieline-garrosh]

I consider myself fortunate. I never over extended anything my followers could do. I mostly used my 2 Kyrian, 3 Venthyr, and 2 NF covenants as a passive way to obtain Anima. I was and am perfectly content using them in the same manner. Those silver missions to advance the campaign will still be there when I am ready to do them. Once again, I am rewarded for my laziness and not trying to rush through the table for instant gratification.

[Vokire-cenarion-circle]

@Ender-maelstrom

Except yes, Night Fae are screwed. Once you’ve done the campaign missions, the costs to level companions is much, much higher, both in anima and time. You are acting like Night Fae now have to deal with what other covenants had to deal with, which is a bunch of BS. Other covenants never needed to spend 50k+ anima, losing every mission for 3 months, to have a shot at successfully completing a mission. But that is where Night Fae are now

No. You received rewards/gains/resources from content that was:

1. Drastically above your level

And

2. before you should have obtained those rewards.

You cannot expect any reasonable person to assume you had no idea what was going on if you beat content drastically outside of your level and had to use very specific strategies to win and trying all other strategies resulted in your failure. You will have to spend anima catching up your characters to the content you shouldn’t have been able to access. Guess what? Between then and now, I will also have to spend anima getting to the same content as you.

@Ender-maelstrom

You’re attitude is the same as me suggesting that since Fire Mage’s are currently one of the more powerful specs in PvP; it would be perfectly fine if their spec was completely unplayable in PvP for all of 9.1.

The two are not comparable. Let’s create a more reasonable comparison:

There is a quest that requires 100 x item.

X item only drops off of y mob.

Y mob is 10 levels above you.

You, and only those in your group, could kill those mobs 10 levels above you, guaranteed, by dropping bombs. You finish the quest in a week. You put in less effort, time, and gold than everyone else. You’ve now got your rewards.

Everyone else could not get bombs. They also started with a default handicap even outside of the bombs. They had to level to kill the mobs to get the items to complete the quest. It took them much more time, effort, and gold to kill the mobs to complete the quest. Everyone else completes the quest in four weeks.

Blizzard noticed the bombs were unfair and removed them from access. Blizzard noticed the handicap and removed it.

What you’re mad about is that you’ve already obtained the rewards for less time, effort, and anima and now you’re being forced to correct by putting in the same time, effort, and anima as others will to reach the same point. You want to keep all of you progress, all of your rewards, which you obtained for less effort, time, and anima, and get even more rewards now on top of that.

Again, no sympathy here, buckaroo.

[Virus-nagrand (Virus)]

@Ardrienn-stormrage

Never saw any threads from Kyrian or Venthyr players? GTFOH

Calm down there princess, not everyone cares enough to pay attention to all of the things people are complaining about from expansion to expansion. Not everyone’s acutely aware of stuff being broken so they can take advantage of it, I only went with Fae because of the fox form movement speed thing lol

[Ulthané-proudmoore (Ulthané)]

I’ll take them adding Experience Missions back because how dafuq you gonna level your companions X_X

[Vokire-cenarion-circle]

You can gain EXP from failing missions. I do think they should make it a little bit more obvious you will gain exp win, lose, or draw haha.

[Ardrienn-stormrage]

I got your princess hanging, clownshoes.