Please stop spamming with low effort chatgpt threads asking for things no one cares about
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I’m simply providing my own feedback on the forums, which is what this tool is meant to be used for. My posts are respectful, informative, and do not violate the Terms of Service or Social Contract.
Please avoid posting off-topic comments in an attempt to derail the discussion.
They are Chatgpt, therefore AI spam and all your posts will now be flagged as such. You are about as good at writing forum posts as you are dps’ing
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It seems like you might be an alt account that has been put on suspension and decided to evade that suspension to continue your harassment and derail my topic of discussion. Additionally, throwing insults and making baseless accusations doesn’t contribute to a constructive conversation.
This topic addresses the issue of players using PvP gear to exploit the game and access PvE content.
Interesting threat considering you’re the one being reported for toxic behaviour.
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LMAO WHAT?? Now that is obvious use of AI. Firstly; I never claimed they were avoiding the ilvl check, you were. I’m saying that doing 1 piece of content, then doing another, both to gear, is not exploitative. Your argument is like saying “Raiding in dungeon gear is exploitative because you’re avoiding the stat requirement to kill the bosses”.
Using gear from 1 type of content, to then gear through another type of content is not exploitative.
lol sure bud, defend the guy spamming AI generated spam threads thats a great look for you.
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Ltwhale has literally been spamming AI responses. Why are you on the gold buyer’s side?
A - I can’t prove he isn’t simply educated enough to speak clearly so he’s not misconstrued. Just because big words can be confusing doesn’t mean they’re AI generated. Also who would care if it WAS AI? It’s well written and gets the point across without seeming too stupid unlike the replies?
This is clearly AI. He ran his argument and my argument together in some program like ChatGPT and it spit out whatever this is, combining our points and saying it’s contradictive. It isn’t well written at all. And you’re calling the replies stupid?? Is your IQ that of a pickled banana peel? Come on, you can clearly see how his point is immediately invalidated by his own argument, as gearing in one piece of content, then gearing in another, is not exploitative.
You can literally copy paste his words into an AI checker and the majority are flagged, and AI words are not clever or original, they are stolen. Its why AI is such a big deal in academia
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Are you aware that you contradicted yourself? First claiming that players are not avoiding any requirements, and then comparing it to avoiding stat requirements in raiding.
The core issue is not about using gear from one type of content to gear through another type of content. The concern is about using PvP gear to artificially boost item level for PvE content, which bypasses the intended progression system.
This makes no sense.
This not accurate because raiding in dungeon gear still follows the intended progression path. Using PvP gear to meet item level requirements for PvE content is a workaround that was not intended by the game designers. This is the definition of exploitative behavior by Blizzard’s own definition.
Okay arguements aside, please explain to me how iLvl for items in your BAGS that don’t need to be worn isn’t exploiting the game? Let’s say your gear only adds up to a number too low for inferno, but if you roll on higher Ilvl gear for those slots just to have it, you can get in well below the requirement. Have you never experienced someone stealing from you outside their spec or gear type for seemingly no reason? Well that’s why they do it. Caster trinket on a str char? Well it can sit in my bags and boost my GS until I get a real trinket. It’s the Ilvl that is causing a problem here, not the gear itself. They aren’t required to even WEAR those pieces to get in.
Hell I’m guilty of doing this myself, I couldn’t get into heroics I was just a few levels low, so I went and bought the cheapest gear with the highest Ilvl (EDIT) they were entirely the wrong type of gear (caster stuff for ret) and went in with what I was WEARING. Tell me that’s not exploiting the system?
Source - I’m naked in the city and just successfully queued for an Inferno because my Ilvl is in my bags still.
WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT?? I said that your argument is like saying that, trying to show you how dumb it is.
No, it is not ArTiFiCiAlLy BoOsTiNg ItEm LeVeL. It is using gear to obtain better gear.
And gearing through pvp is not unintended.
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This is not the topic. The topic is pvp gear. Imo, gear in bags should not be counted towards ilvl, but again, not what’s being talked about.
Are you aware that some players store Cloth BoE PvP gear in their bank and then transfer it between their characters? Tho this is slightly off topic
Is slightly off topic it is still Relevant to the discussion at hand.
It is another form of exploitation and goes hand in hand with using PvP gear to bypass the requirements for PvE content.
My idea of setting the item level low when not in instanced PvP would fix this issue. (which has already been done in WoW)
THIS is what I agree with, the rest of it is overly complicated and I’m not as invested in that part of the topic. I only agree with this based on my bag argument not so much what they’re wearing at the time. High Ilvl pieces of the wrong type being valid.
Whatever gold buying chat AI blah blah history he’s got I’m not aware of and impartial to the who just the what.
Yes, and that is exploiting. But like you said;
They are already lower ilvl than pve gear is. This is a non-issue. People who actually have the pvp gear equipped are not a problem.
I think I misunderstood the overall topic then ENTIRELY based on how the bag Ilvl works. That’s why I would want it changed, not because they’re wearing it, just the ones that AREN’T. I don’t mind PvP gear if they’ve at least made a real effort to meet basic requirements, especially if they’re good with mechanics or are the only one making an effort to kick mobs etc. Maybe the half-way solution is they don’t allow bagged items to count toward Ilvl.
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It’s understandable that there might be some confusion regarding how ilvl works and its impact on group content. However, it’s crucial to address a few points to clarify the situation:
- Bagged Items: Allowing items in your bags to count towards your ilvl can indeed be problematic. It can lead to players artificially inflating their ilvl without actually equipping appropriate gear, which undermines the intended progression system. A reasonable solution would be to exclude bagged items from ilvl calculations, ensuring that only equipped items contribute to a player’s ilvl.
- PvP Gear: It’s important to recognize that using PvP gear to meet ilvl requirements for PvE content can be a workaround that bypasses the intended progression. While some players might be skilled with mechanics and contribute effectively, the primary concern is ensuring that all players meet the basic requirements to participate in the content. This helps maintain a consistent and balanced group performance.
- Effort and Preparedness: Players who make a real effort to meet basic requirements, whether through PvE or PvP gear, should be acknowledged and appreciated. However, it’s essential to have a system in place that accurately reflects their readiness for the content. This includes proper ilvl calculations based on equipped gear and ensuring that players are adequately prepared for the challenges ahead.
- Community Standards: The gaming community often develops standards and expectations based on shared experiences. It’s important to consider these standards when discussing ilvl requirements and gear optimization. Ensuring that players are appropriately geared and prepared contributes to a more positive and successful group experience.
In conclusion, addressing the issue of bagged items counting towards ilvl and ensuring that players meet basic requirements through appropriate gear are important steps to maintain a balanced and enjoyable gaming environment.