You are correct. In my example they asked after I had already respecced. With dual spec I could easily switch back tank their dungeon and then switch back to pvp. I would spend more time in the game and be able to help other people. Might even make new friends in the game. Currently I raid log and spend less time in the game.
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There are other ways to increase accessibility besides Wrath dual spec.
Add an all-class trainer in Shattrath - Easier to respec because you don’t have to go all the way to an old world major city
Class trainers sell a “respec token” for 50g. You can use one to reset your talents anywhere you want, but you get 10 minutes of resurrection sickness (“respec” sickness)
When you buy a respec, your respecs are discounted by 50% for the rest of the day. That way it’s not quite as costly to switch to a temp spec and then switch back.
Not my idea - but Arena only spec. When you enter arena you auto switch to a 2nd spec that is only available in arena.
I don’t even want these changes, I’d rather things stay as they are, but I do want people who aren’t enjoying the game to have access to play it the way they want. I just don’t want it to change the balance of raiding for me like Wrath dual spec would.
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You’d spend more time in the game too if you took time to farm the extra gold for respecs. I don’t want to say “your problem is” because I don’t know you personally, but it feels like you really don’t value things in the game enough to put in the work it takes to enjoy them. There’s nothing stopping you from helping other people or making new friends in the game other than your willingness to respec.
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So I should spend time in the game doing something other than what I enjoy? That doesn’t sound fun so I log out.
I played the seasonal squid market for all the sweats right before TBCC launched and made out quite well gold is not really the problem for me but it would be if I just swapped back and forth over and over. The investment of gold and time to respec vs the investment to reward ratio of PVP, no, it does not add up.
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So the chrono beacon makes things more…convenient?
No, it’s World of Warcraft Dual Spec that was implemented during the WotLK expansion.
But you literally could play it. The BG queues were long, but you’d eventually be put into the game.
You’re lying if you say it’s “unplayable” because it was still playable, by definition of the word.
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You do you.
To some extent, yes. There are trade-offs in this game if you want to experience all the aspects of it optimally. Otherwise why not just have a lobby style game where you sit in shatt all day and get teleported to instances/raids/BGs?
Well then you just have to weigh the gold investment to how much enjoyment you’re getting out of whatever you’re doing. If gold isn’t an issue right now then the only thing preventing you from doing the things you enjoy is yourself. No one is asking you to respec 10x a week, and I doubt that 100 or even 200g a week would bankrupt you that quickly when you consider daily quests and things like that.
There are creative and fun ways to farm gold, some may not be as efficient as others but they can definitely be enjoyable.
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Enjoyable is subjective. My auto-renewal is already cancelled. I have 3 weeks to get my swift flight form quest done so that if I do come back, it will already be there for me. It’s hard to justify using the current system when I know there is a possibility of a better system.
And this my friend is why i quit.
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The chrono beacon stopped world buffs from ticking down, making playing the game after acquiring world buffs Playable not more convenient.
Right, a system developed for and implemented in a later expansion than TBC. Maybe try asking for a new type of dual spec system designed for TBC.
That’s why I said ‘fundamentally unplayable’ – because blizzard never intended for the system to handle the faction imbalance we see in TBCC the PvP system failed even though it was technically working correctly.
Then it sounds like you don’t enjoy TBC, and that’s no one’s problem but your own.
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Hey, if you’re going by metrics of people on forums, then you should be pro Dual Spec given how many folks here are in favor for it.
If not, then you’re basically admitting that that whole 20 threads thing is irrelevant.
Which one is it?
Was it unplayable? Were you unable to log in?
Wrath was before TBCC.
So it is impossible for us to ask for dual spec even though the current system is working correctly but people just avoid using by raid logging and thus the game suffers?
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Game was still playable. By definition. Stop lying.
Implemented later, yes. Developed for? I dunno, do you have proof it was developed specifically for Wrath?
Like the new type of Seal of the Martyr designed for TBC?
Or like the new type of Druid Energy designed for TBC?
Or like the new type of Tinnitus designed for TBC?
Wait, aren’t those just carried over from later expansions and added to this one? I’m confused now as to why we arbitrarily need a Dual Spec designed for TBC when we already have a Dual Spec designed for World of Warcraft in general.
By using that word, you’re incorrect. By definition. Game is still playable. Fundamentally. You’re arguing with the dictionary.
Yes. If your goal was to maintain your world buffs you could not log into your character without losing time on them. Making your character unplayable.
I said TBC, not TBCC.
No, but you should try asking for a system tailored to TBC rather than a copy/paste of an existing system from a different expansion. Copy/pasting WOTLK DS brings issues with it, a custom DS system could be designed in a way to prevent those issues.
This post is for the addition of dual spec to TBCC…who cares if they add it to TBC.
What issues?
Hmm, sounds like a player-induced problem. Not really Blizzard’s fault.
No, we want a system tailored to TBC Classic.
Prove this is anything other than your personal opinion.
No it wasn’t. If you wanted to maximize time with the WBs you couldn’t log in. I’m not lying.
No? Seal of the martyr and tinnitus were implemented pre-wrath so I’m fairly certain they were designed based off TBC issues. The druid energy fix was also not a later system from a later expansion, it was a revert to the old druid energy system.
just like it’s not blizzards fault you don’t want to farm 100g to swap specs?
This is what I’m saying… if you want to be a loser and quote me over 1 letter then you’re just pathetic.
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Sorry, game was playable regardless of whatever stipulations players beheld themselves to. Nobody forced them to attend to a player-created meta.
If you can log into the game and play it, it’s playable. By definition.
So we should be playing TBC Classic in a Wrath Pre-patch state? Is that what you’re arguing?