So apparently my account was banned for gold buying, or receiving gold from someone who sells gold. However, the only instance I’ve had that would even come close, is participating in GDKP raids. I participated in a GDKP raid, and bought one item and received a 16k gold payout.
Does this constitute or if in fact the raid leader was a gold seller, would this be confused as me buying gold? There is no way for me to have known that before these raids. I don’t exactly interrogate the raid leaders or raid members before joining.
I do have an open appeal also, the only proof I can provide is the raid leader’s discord name and discord server.
Getting gold in a GDKP run could very well make this happen. As you never know where that gold came from and gold sellers have been using these runs to try to launder gold. Plus sure to also sell people raid runs as well.
GDKP’s could be a culprit of these suspensions, as they have been for others. That doesn’t mean it’s the case for you, but it’s a good start.
It wouldn’t be a “confusion”. If you are receiving bought/stolen gold, then it could very well be why you were suspended.
You should. Not that you would likely get an honest answer if they were, but this is the true issue. If there’s no way for you to know, then you shouldn’t join in. While Blizzard has shown leniency in these situations in the past, it would seem that leniency is less likely these days.
This is the correct course of action. There’s no “proof” to give them, as they look at these appeals with their evidence, and nothing more. Good luck.
I heard you can report to Discord about RMT practices happening on their servers, but sadly enough with the nature of Discord servers they just reboot a new Discord server with templates to er, resume their illegal activities so far. But that’s an option you can take.
As Zenjy said, Blizzard holds no power in other platforms. Sometimes I do wish the various gaming and other communities would band together to form an collective anti-illegal front though or communication but that’s wishful thinking.
Sure if the gold in question came from the raid leader then he is on blizzards radar as well. Pretty much anyone in contact with the gold in question would be investigated.
I am not saying that i want them to investigate discord or anything. I am just saying that, without me logging in, thats the only information I have available.
There has been a recent wave of bans tied to people receiving illegal gold through GDKP runs on Wrath Classic.
While understandably, it’s difficult to be able to vouch for the gold you’re receiving through these runs - the big cincher here is that GDKP runs and any kind of in-game service/boost transactions are risky business for people on both sides of the coin. People paying for the runs can have their gold stolen and no service provided, but people selling the runs can feel the sting of sanctions for receiving illegal gold.
These sorts of things are unsupported for a reason. It’s risky business, but people will do them no matter what Blizzard says.
Please do keep up with your appeals. I know you said you were “banned”, but too often players use that term interchangeably with “suspended”, but whichever it was, perhaps it will be lessened or overturned. A lot of folks have come through here in your position and it’s been a mixed bag as to whether the sanction sticks, is lessened or overturned altogether. I do wish you luck, however it turns out.
I appreciate you going through the hassle of finding all of this information, and also noted going forward. However, I am going to have to sit for 2 weeks because of something I was unaware of? I wish they would’ve asked the question first, instead of assuming the worst.
I haven’t even gotten a reply to my appeal in 24 hours, and the email I received also said that they may not even look at the appeal…seems very unfair.
Ticket times right now are a bit elevated yet from a surge they had recently. It will likely take a day or two for a response. Please be aware - you will likely get a templated response. It is not an automated one, but templates are used to keep the information going out uniform.
You are allowed to appeal and appeal again until no more appeals will be accepted - and they will tell you when they hit that point. I know with a number of the appeals lately, they’ve required an escalation (which sometimes the GMs fail to mention.)
They don’t do that, no matter the reason behind the sanction. We all agree to abide by the rules and behaviors outlined in the ToS/EULA/CoC. They handle sanctions only with the data on the back end of things. They don’t accept proof or reasons or “context” of what players are doing when the system pings something nefarious.
You may have been unaware that you received tainted gold, but the risk was always there and it is a very real risk, whether players want to think about it or not.
Thing is they do not have to ask you before hand. Like others have said they go by the logs and if you came into contact with stolen gold then that is all they need. The gold sellers have been using the GDKP runs to launder gold and now they are cracking down. Plus these runs are a big reason people buy a lot of gold. So they are cracking down on things.
Which is fine and totally understandable. However, my point wasn’t being that I would verify if it was good gold or not…If they simply asked me, I would’ve said that Yes I was in a GDKP, if they informed me the gold was RMT gold, then I would’ve mentioned I was unaware, and wouldn’t participate in GDKP anymore going forward.
Now I know going forward, but I also get to sit for 2 weeks then find out what the damage is to my account (items, gold, etc.). All over something that I was totally unaware was a “bad thing.” If they ended up reversing my suspension, that’d be ideal, but my faith is dwindling in that department as you stated earlier, I don’t have any proof.
Problem is there is no point for them to ask, People do not always tell the truth about things like this.
From a GDKP run you have no idea if the gold is good or not, No way in the world of knowing that. That is why these runs are a very bad idea. Does not matter if you where aware if the gold was legit or not.
With that laundry list of blue posts warning of the dangers of these sorts of services (character boosts, dungeon carries, GDKP raids), it might be wise for them to consider banning those practices outright.
People would still do them. They’ve got it tweaked down as much as they can, but who knows what tomorrow may bring. Just like they’ve changed what is permissible for multiplexing MULTIBOXING (bloody autocorrect) and how the larger boosting communities used to operate - they can change the rules but people will still find that loophole and find a way to make it work.
And it would be nearly impossible besides. If they did that, they’d have to ban people paying someone gold to craft something or for anything else in the game. There is no feasible way to police what people will pay gold for. What they can do is follow the trail of illegal gold. That puts the onus on the players who blindly accept it.
Problem isnt the run its self its players looking for the easy way out getting gold as long as theres lazy players looking for the easy gold there will be cockroaches exploting them.
If someone in a GDKP run bought gold, and then you obtained some of that gold, that can indeed cause a suspension or ban yes. Although it depends on a lot of factors, like if this happens frequently or is just a one-off.
I will note that the various other factors it depends on have NOT been made privy to players.
