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They actually can. It’s why situations and transactions like this are completely unsupported.

Uh, I hate to break it to you, but this happens a LOT. Those who are making transfers like this are actually supporting illicit gold, stolen accounts and hacking. It’s something that I would recommend staying very clear of personally.

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Imagine going to sell a GoPro camera at a pawn store and getting arrested by the FBI for accepting unclean money when you clearly have no way of confirming it’s clean and you didn’t knowingly accept dirty money.

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False equivalency, this isn’t a pawn shop, and you aren’t selling a GoPro. This is the exact reason real world comparisons don’t work.

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It’s apples for apples. The item swaps are different, but the concept is the same. This doesn’t ‘promote’ gold buying since if they wanted Classic Era gold they can just buy it there and bypass the trading entirely.

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Right. Like how are you supposed to know where someone else’s gold come from when doing any sort of trade? That doesn’t make sense lol. Should you just refrain from doing any in game trading at all because of the “potentially illicitly obtained gold” they may be trading you?

We’ll, you’ll need to wait on your ticket to see if they feel you were an innocent victim this time around. Again, I wouldn’t be dealing with people who you have no clue where they got their gold from. It’s extremely risky and may very well end up in your own account being closed.

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It really isn’t. It would be closer to saying you are paying someone for a tour of a celebrities’ house, but the tour guide has his shop set up in a back alley. But that, too, is not an apt comparison. As has been stated many times before in here, trying to equate in game for the real world is comparing apples to trout.

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I’m hopeful the GM’s do not have a similar thought process. It makes me want to do 0 interactions with the general population to avoid trading with someone who acquired an items with illicit gold to which I purchase the item from them and get banned.

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It has nothing to do with a “thought process” and more than o do with their game logs.

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So are you saying if their logs say that ‘X’ buys illicit gold and ‘X’ then trades it to innocent party ‘Y’ then both Y and X get banned automatically due to ‘game logs’?

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Illicit movers and shakers do everything they can do muddy the logs.

I’d wait on the appeal. Nothing but conjecture here.

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Doesn’t look like I said that, nope.

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They’re all out of there (you get a ban, you get a ban, and you get a ban). I understand the person that is replying to us may not be a reflection of what I can expect as an outcome; however, I like your example above.

Customer Support: I genuinely appreciate you clarifying what it is at least. My frustration is obviously not with you. You have somewhat eased my worries.

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Thnake, I think your appeal will be overturned. It will just take a little bit of time to get a response which sucks but hey, I’m sure you’ll be in the clear. There is nowhere that states that swapping gold is against ToS and as the GM above stated, it’s just very risky because you don’t know who you’re dealing with.

Many people swap their gold between Classic Era and WOTLK because they can buy wow tokens on WOTLK for game time.

True. Illicit gold traders definitely should have a policy action, but the innocent part with proven discord chats that they innocently went in to the trade should not be smacked down as well. I hope the discord links will resolve the issue. I handle customer escalations for most of my day to day tasks in my day job and I can’t imagine holding things against an innocent party. I’m a bit bias I know; however, I think most would agree.

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I appreciate it brother. I could agree with their ban if someone said they just bought gold online on accident and wanted a swap to Era, but if I have factual logs on how the trade happened then I hope it will be overturned. I think GM’s have a common sense approach to these things. I will try to reach them via ‘Chat’ as I believe it’s enabled during early morning hours.

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Unfortunately, they absolutely will not. Blizzard goes by their logs. Nothing from outside sources, be they Discord images/logs, Twitch/Youtube streams, screenshots or anything else of the sort. Their logs only.

This is dangerous to do - nothing against you or the OP. You have no way of seeing or knowing what is going on behind the scenes. It’s great to want to champion someone else who believes their sanction is unjust or whatnot, but it’s not wise to do.

We have seen people who have absolutely been slapped with sanctions due to being on the receiving end of illegal gold - even if they weren’t the one who purchased it. They may have gotten lessened sanctions after appeals, but most, if not all that I can recall have still been sanctioned for some length of time.

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I don’t believe that giving someone positive words of affirmation poses any danger to me or my account. If what he’s telling us is true, it is probably just a mistake and will be over turned as he says he has all the evidence he needs to back his claim.

You can only appeal through the proper appeals method. Chat is NOT to be used to try and talk to anyone about penalties or appeals.

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Yeah I believe they took the live chat out (for account / in game purposes) out several years back.