About LFR N'Zoth and Removing LFR

It’s true in-game as well. Who do you think is playing Normal mode right now? The people who aren’t satisfied with LFR and want to do more challenging content.

You generally hear more complaining about stuff than compliments. That doesn’t mean anything. There are people who complain about all aspects of the game. Does that means we should remove everything that those people don’t like?

And removing LFR removes content for a lot of people with nothing to make up for it.

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Yeah, a lot of people just have no idea how it works and it’s a fight you need some background to do properly. I mentioned desolate host and that seemed to click for some people, not that it helped last night. people just leave after 1 wipe so frequently you have to re explain everything again. as if in regular raiding you don’t wipe a bunch of times until it’s on farm. this is way worse than legion kil’jaeden or argus for sure, it needs tuning

There are things that have needed more attention from Blizzard for years.

If I were to try to make some content bigger than normal, I would be refused because my gear is not good, my spec is not the right one, my choice of talents and skills would have to be different to please other people and finally, the Raid . Io would have to say that I deserve to be in the group of grown boys.

I don’t know why those who make High End content get stressed out with something they don’t have to set foot on.

It’s like I’m stressed out by battlegrounds, arenas or the absence of pvp equipment vendors, even though I don’t do any of these contents.

When should we expect those who are uncomfortable with LFR to want to think of ways to compel people to participate in arenas and BGs?

So you want “no skill LFR heroes” in the raid tiers you do? Didn’t think this logic through very well did you?

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I think you should be removed. You’re more useless than LFR.

If you don’t like LFR don’t do it.

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I killed LFR N’Zoth last night.

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Except we’ve already removed ourselves, and the problem is notably NOT solved.

Pet battles are not the same as lfr.

The level of MY pets will never affect any content YOU do.

On the contrary though, MY ability to play my class or do mechanics could very well affect most of the content you do.

The issue that I have with lfr is along the same lines as titanforging. They both promote an “I’m doing good enough” attitude, which does not translate well in group content that has the slightest amount of personal responsibility.

Problem is solved. You aren’t grouping up with nor inviting LFR players into your group. It makes no logical sense then for you to keep complaining about it.

It can. We could meet up in the PvP pet battle finder.

Not really. You might happen to be in the same LFR as me, but I don’t care. Play how you want, and if you are there to purposefully sabotage the raid the rest of us will vote kick you.

So what? Who cares what you think about what another player decides is good enough for their own enjoyment. The game is World of Warcraft not “World of Beeftotemcraft”.

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Queued it a few times and died. No, they shouldn’t nerf him. If you don’t learn the mechanics, it’s not N’zoth’s fault. People need to step up. I mean we’re talking about an entity that was around long before any of us were here for crying out loud. It better be a damn challenge.

It’s not a problem of players trying to do the boss it’s a problem of trolls trying to disrupt the encounter. It’s become a joke to troll the fight by removing your cloak.

This is neither a git good or a LFR needs to be removed issue. It’s a trolling issue.

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LFR needs to go

By all means, please do. Just leave LFR alone for those who rely on it.

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Lets not…

“We want to return to the days where only the cool kids got to be the heroes and the peasant casual scum knew their place beneath our feet. Maybe if you kiss up to us enough we will let you in. :)”

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I think we just want a time where like I don’t know

People had the cloak on before they entered the raid with out blizzard intervention

I also don’t think many people had that lordship mentality that you keep preaching people had, being an active member of the raid community in WoW I don’t think I’ve ever met people like that

Pretty much LOL!

It can’t. Pet battles and battle pets have no affect on anything outside of that system. Your battle pets are not going to do anything for your lfr runs or dungeons.

Your right, in lfr I could be completely ignored, because in most cases outside of the tanks there is very little personal responsibility for anyone else, and peoples dps does not matter because it can’t matter.

But I don’t remember saying just lfr and I think you miss the point.

No, the game was World of Warcraft. It’s now World of rng craft, World of I win mechanics craft, World of dailies craft, or world of I don’t want to take any personal responsibility for how garbage I am at playing warcraft so blizzard has to nerf this craft.

Not sure since I can’t see my sanity level on my UI. But during first phase, the neck button disappears and I was getting hit with insanity so probably by the time I got my body back it was too late.

Like I said, that instance was wonky from the start so could’ve been just that.

We’ll see.

“We want to go to a time where the boss sees us and just dies, because doing more than just brute forcing or way through something is way to much to ask casuals like us”

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