then install the addons they use and go compete at their level.
if you can’t, then obviously it’s not the addons.
Fair enough, I’ve only played a bit of rogue, enough to know it’s a reasonable facsimile of Havoc DH with enough differences I don’t like it. But, I will maintain, with focus and effort you will get good at the class without the help of add-ons.
Whether or not you want to challenge yourself like that is up to you and I won’t pressure you or ask about it in the future. Just pointing out that through determination of will I learned my class without the “benefits” of add-ons.
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Kind of a Luddite response - tools bad, ban them please, I don’t won’t progress.
Nah, I appreciate the offer though, as much as they irritate me sometimes I really do love my guild and can’t see myself leaving unless I’m gonna get paid to. Which isn’t going to happen. I don’t plan to, want to or think I would accept this GAME as a job. I play it to have fun and more often than not I have fun playing with my guild.
But, seriously, thank you for the offer.
And, Dawnpaws, do you really think we’re all so bad at games we can’t get it done without add-ons?
Remove all addons and watch the world burn. Muahahahahahaha…
That’s my point, with or without add-ons the greats will perform great anyway, all add-ons do is let good players join those great players by accident. I know you’re joking but seriously, do it.
If nothing else, players will leave which is going to cut down on the toxicity of the player base and ultimately result in more new players trying out the game. TWW is billed as an Expac that you don’t need context to understand, meaning it was designed for new players to enter on. And, if they don’t leave then you haven’t lost any money and allowed the player base to identify the bad players who are trolling easier.
If we remove all add-ons it becomes a new game. The best players will stick around for the chance to prove they never needed the add-ons. And, well, Blizzard has already been pretty clear that their focus is on new players not maintaining players.
Happy for you or sorry this happened to you. Have a nice day 
That’s confusing. Nothing happened to me haha. But I hope you have a good day too friend. Good luck on your adventures out there 
most addons have nothing to do with player skill. you seem to be missing that.
Wait what?
How come other players don’t need addons to play outlaw but you do? Clearly it is a skill issue.
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btw the person who was lecturing me on mythic raid hasn’t actually killed any mythic bosses according to logs and raider io. neither has their guild. barlo that is
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Naturally.
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I say we yank addons the way they tried to yank flying in WoD. Let’s skin that smokewagon and see how many Mythic gamers we have left when every “mechanical” add on is gone. 
Blizz needs to remove all addons. Blizz needs to make raids doable without addons including mythic. How is WoW going to get new players? If they have to download a bunch of addons.
TSM should be outright banned. You don’t need to be able to post and cancel scan using your mousewheel.
even damage meters should have a limit as it is sometimes too distracting for
some people.
Remove addons entirely.
Dont like em dont use them , end of story … why arent people complaining on how many people die from cigarettes
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Blizzard should create fights that don’t require weakauras regardless of whether or not ppl are making them for the fight. If the fights don’t need weakauras, only lunatics would feel the need to make them anyway. How hard is it to make mechanics that aren’t trackable with the API?
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I have no idea what point you’re trying to make here.
People do? and if you’re being sarcastic I don’t see the relevance…?
It’s not about you not liking them so don’t use them. PVE Content is tuned around it, and addons in PVP give such a huge advantage against those who don’t have them.
All non-UI addons should be disabled in PVP.
Addons at the level of WeakAuras should be disabled in PVE.
When world first guilds have full-time employees whose job it is to create Weak Auras, you know the addon is doing too much.
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It got tuned around them and made more harder since the add ons came out, but that was not the original plan, thus why the game is harder now, if you take away add ons you would not be able to play the game