A Vow for Stormpike’s Honor (premade AV)

It’s obviously teaching players to be better strategists.

We need fewer flaky pugs. If they don’t plan on actually PvPing, why do they queue for PvP?

Cheaters when people don’t wanna play against them.

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I’m talking about the pugs on my side, why would I want to play with people who don’t want to play the game they queued up for?

Why would people want to knowingly play with cheaters. That just makes them feel guilty by association

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But communicating with your fellow players, or choosing to actually play the game you queued up for, isn’t cheating.

And we harvest a lot of pugs, they join because they see that it’s better playing with a team. It’s the reason I joined.

Look. Here is the truth. Pugs should want to queue up against a full premade because they will learn to get better. How hard is it to type in chat the strat? You can also raid warning for maximum effect output.

Voice chat doesn’t matter. Half the people in premades don’t speak or they just say unintelligible gibberish which actually makes it harder to play and puts premades at a disadvantage.

SacredCow- if you practiced your rotation more, you would be able to beat a full 40. Instead, you just make excuses. Hiram is correct over you.

Pugs just need to get better by learning from us because we know the strat.

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God I hope this is satire

Using out of game systems to affect in game environments that isn’t directly supported by those environment is the definition of cheating

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What “out of game systems” are being used?

Last I checked random bgs didn’t come with a discord server and 40 vetted players

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My dear Anthem. Where does the in-game voice chat Blizzard themselves put into the game for raid groups fall into this conversation? What is the difference between discord and Blizzard’s voice system?

The players in your voice chat aren’t vetted by a leader before being invited.

Also, blizzard voice lacks the trust in the system players have in discord, and it’s popularity, this being largely unused by the general playerbase

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Most people aren’t in discord. And the ones who are are talking about their day, or telling jokes. All communication is done via in game chat and raid warnings.

And have you ever clicked this button?

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No one is vetting players, no one is checking gear or talents. Anyone who wants to play can join.

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It’s gotta feel at least a little bad to just come on here and lie blatantly like that

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But no one is vetting players. Anyone who wants to play, can.

Not everyone is geared to the hilt. Some people are testing things out.

Premade players, are just pugs, who have learned that team play is better than solo play.

Que syncers are just pugs who learned it was easier to win games by cheating.

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You can keep saying that till you’re blue in the face.

But you’re wrong, communicating with your teammates isn’t cheating.

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You can keep saying that till you’re blue in the face, using out of game systems to ensure 40 people who know each other (at the bare minimum you know each other better than randoms do) are in the same game as each other IS cheating.

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This isn’t possible. What “out of game system” does this?

You must truly take me for the biggest fool to think I’d believe you’re not ensuring the 40 cheaters ( sometimes just 20) you’ve gotten together aren’t n the same game

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Well, you started with discord.

There is an in game voice chat system that you can use, so games do in fact, actually come with voice chat built in.

So now that part has been debunked, you don’t want to tell what other system you have issue with?

I don’t think you know what that word means.

The system which Blizzard developed, actively tries to place grouped players together.

The system you have issue with isn’t an “out of game system”. It’s the matchmaker itself.