A thank you to the Community Council

As was I. I’m glad your particular issue is being discussed!

I am very impressed with one poster in particular - Prosident.

That guy is voicing many of my own concerns, and I am very glad to see someone talking some hard issues in there

They need to decide what kind of a game this is or what’s it’s going to be. The factions are meaningless unless they are going to lean into world pvp related content. If they are not and this continues to be a mainly pve focused game then the factions are meaningless and dividing the playerbase in half is dumb. From a story perspective, after all that has happened the Horde and Alliance would have to the dumbest beings in the universe to continue to go to war with one another

I just wouldn’t want to deal with any grief because of it.

Very nice! Sadly though for me I hate the thought of having to do that etc. BUT since the devs don’t care about the imbalance and encourage it actually, especially when they take jabs at Alliance players at Blizzcon, I don’t see any other way to fix it except those ideas from that thread.

It is just a bummer the devs have let it get to this point and only keeps getting worse.

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I agree that the story is abysmal, and has been for a long time now, but I don’t want that lack of imagination from the story hacks to be used as a reason to remove the divide.

What we should be demanding is an escalation of the faction wars; if we use Wrath as an example, we fought the opposite faction in ToC and also in IceCrown, the story didn’t suffer and we all killed the big bad but the factions were still at war with each other.

If we contrast that Legion where I had to associate with my enemy in the shared class halls; with BfA which was meant to reignite the faction war the story was pathetic and there were no in-game faction war parts at all.

For me the faction divide first started to erode when we were allowed to have toons of both factions on the same server, before that I remember going out of my way to attack any Alliance that I stumbled upon, the PVP battles were epic; we had real consequences and your reputation on the server really mattered.

So for me, I want the writers to build on previous lore, rather than retconning to shoehorn in some borrowed power play system, and really provide a true reason to hate the opposing faction.

#forthehorde
#garroshdidnothingwrong

They could totally have a reason to hate eachother and still allow cross faction play.

There’s literally always outliers. We were at war in Pandaria, and there were people working across faction lines. It’s even in the trailer.

No matter how you slice it, It only makes sense to have an option that lets you play with whoever you want.

Give more options to the players. If you don’t want to play cross faction, then just don’t. Let everyone else do it.

I’d love cross faction play, but with all instanced content instead of just PvE.

Why should we not have cross faction play for Neutral questing zones?
Why should we not have cross faction play for Roleplay?
Why should we have these restrictions at all?

Lol, like it makes a difference. Blizzard isn’t going to respond or take anything there seriously

Blizzard made a statement recently that they intend to provide fixes to the Faction imbalance “soon :tm:

So they already presented this matter to the devs to make their minds up.I see where this would head towards. If this is what this community wants ,I’m surly gone.

You would leave over a completely Opt In feature?

That would be like leaving because some people like war mode.

Is it really an opinion,when the dev make up their minds that Alliance isn’t any more in game? Do you think that fools me that they have good intent?

Did you not read the linked thread?

The idea is to have a mode you can opt into just like War Mode, that lets you group up with the opposite faction.

In what way is that “Removing the alliance from the game?”

That would allow Alliance players to actually do content for once.

And they don’t? In what? or is this just a desire ,rather than clearly thinking the problem out first. Like cross realming and phasing which we still have those problems.

They’re not, though. They’re trying to make things cross-faction.

Like, I can see now that the Community Council is really just a subset of people who all more or less agree with each other, and now I’m pretty sure it’s just going to hasten the death of the game.

How is an opt-in cross-faction system bad? What do you or don’t you want to see regarding that potential system?
Genuine question; I really want to hear people’s opinions from all sides.
I think faction pride and identity is important to keep because it’s important to a lot of people, but giving people the power to choose would be nice, mostly re: Alliance queue times [or queue times in general for that matter.]

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For one it ruins faction identity,when we play with the enemy ,it ruined pvp for sure with mercenaries and spies. They wouldn’t tell you this you would have to be there to witness this it Bg’s which most would say it doesn’t exist .

Plus lore wise you 'll have rewrite nearly all of it dating back years ,A feat that would take month if not years to do right. People do love the lore the most and when they changed it they left,even the theorist left :slightly_frowning_face:

Not to take away from the point of your post, but come on… tough topic?
There’s a lot more controversial stuff I can think of that would set things on fire

I could go in swinging talking about any multitude of how messed up the recent lawsuit and allegations are, but I doubt yelling at them about that would fix anything in game let alone the workplace. If you have something controversial for ingame right now and moving forward I’m super keen on hearing it.

I mean I’m planning a direct call out/questioning of the state of the absolute madness that is botting and RMT in TBCC. I know that plagues retail as well, I’ve seen the gifs of those nutty boomkin farming in circles, but I don’t play as much retail anymore so I don’t feel as qualified to speak on it other than in an overarching way.

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