Can’t we have both?
Why not both then.
Yessss both!!
And customizations for everyone
It is always odd to fight horde without them ogres. Yes I will agree horde needs them playable.
I do not approve of he customizations for VE though.
I love Valormage’s concept of HE customizations for Velves:
https://www.deviantart.com/valormage2000/art/Void-Elf-High-Elf-Customization-Options-Feature-833185486
It’s a swell thing Blizz doesn’t care about your approval.
Or lots of people, for that matter.
It’s better that they don’t care about giving you a copy-paste of BE hair assets so you can get discount HE.
Glad they also don’t care about your wanting them or your brand if insult-athon either.
Nor do people care about you wanting to have discount HE’s
Cool pics and all, but no.
Yes, absolutely. This would make many people happy, and causes no harm to those that don’t want it. They aren’t forced to use it. It doesn’t take away the void theme due to still having void eye options and their racial abilities being dead void giveaways for those that somehow get confused even with the handful of other instant visual distinctions (name colors, race tooltips, etc.)
No it won’t.
Yes it will.
Except it ignores the lore that they are biologically changed and not just because gained void powers. But let’s conveniently ignore that because it is lore you dislike.
Yes it would, as you can easily tell with the amount of people that heart threads requesting these options. The anti-group is vastly smaller in population.
No, it wouldn’t.
It doesn’t ignore any of the lore.
Ah Lore.
What’s your source on that?
I’ve seen it said before by various players but never found any source to confirm.
Yikes. He’s been avoiding answering you for days now.
You’re going to need to give me a refresher on the context of what you’re asking about.
The Void Elf tentacles.
What is your source for this statement you made?
Again. I’ve seen several other people mention this but can find no canonical source for it.
I was under the impression that someone was making the claim that the Entropic Embrace racial caused tentacles to sprout from their body, that is what I was referring to in my statement. I have sense gone through several examinations of the racial and seen that no such tentacles appear at all, and even if they did THOSE are what I was referring to as simply manifestations like with Shadow Priests.
What I assume you’re referring to is their hair options. I don’t consider those to be manifestations, those are likely actually there. But that doesn’t really matter. The argument your side is making, I assume, is that those cause them to be a different species. However, my rebuttal is that only some of their hair options have that. Additionally, there are several examples of physical mutations that don’t change the species.
I want to restate that when I say Void Elves are the same race as High Elves, I mean they are the same species and I feel like there is at least some misunderstanding when people read that. They are obviously a different race in terms of “ethnicity” if you want to really call it that. But as I’ve already explained somewhere, those slight difference didn’t change them as a species.
I’ll even mention what Ion said again, even though some have decided that because he doesn’t directly work on the story that they can claim his words are meaningless. He has said that both Blood Elves and Void Elves are flavors of High Elves. I know many on the opposing side agree that Blood Elves are High Elves, but you then must agree that so are Void Elves. Ion would not have worded it the way he did if he was only referring to Void Elves as a flavor. There are different races of humans, both in game and in the real world. They’re all flavors of humans though. They’re all the same species.
Even if you want to claim that the High Elf options given to Void Elves are exclusively RP Tools, they’re also options that due to being visually represented in game are by proxy a canon thing that make sense in the context of our understanding. We know the process for Alleria becoming a Void Elf is different than what happened to the playable Void Elves, but the statements about that being a reason one is “allowed” to shift is simply assumptions being made.
What Alleria does is literally a representation of the Void Elf racial Entropic Embrace. We already know Void Elves, through that very racial, can control how much and how little the Void is being tapped into. Even if you want to claim they can’t control it to the same extent, that doesn’t stop them from being able to do it later.
Lore isn’t static, it evolves and progresses. Customization options, as far as I can tell, always have lore backing them up. They don’t just add options in for fun, or else they simply would have gone wild and done things that DONT go against the lore. That’s why Void Elves getting “normal” skin is okay, and why them getting “normal” hair options is also okay.
I have no problem giving Blood Elves exclusivity, but only where it makes sense. And I’ve made it clear that hair options are not that. They can do other things, I’m not a Blood Elf player so I don’t care to offer suggestions since I don’t know what they want.
I’d type more, but I have irl things to take care of.
So in other words you where talking where the moon don’t shine about that subject.
You can stop there.
I am not making some statement about sides.
I have seen several people claim that the tentacles void elves have in their hair are temporary and come and go.
But I have never found a lore source for it.
It was enough people that I thought there might be an obscure blizzard interview referencing it.
As you were apparently refering to entropic embrace (though I didn’t get that impression at the time) and a misapprehension that they generated tentacles from it, then clearly I’ve wasted my time seeking an answer here.
I will note that void eruption (Shadow priests) has four temporary tentacles appear on a characters back though.
I would think the tentacles and the change in blood along with the void being infused into them are all indications that they are no longer blood elves.
They have a thalassian heritage and are thus from them but they’re not blood or high elves anymore.
We can discount the skintones as lorewise they are only for RP reasons. Per blizzard.
When it comes to the void I can only say it has an insatiable hunger; never gives & only takes.
Well you say that, and yet they’ve gone out of their way to give Void elves the HE aesthetic.
So as usual, you’re wrong.