Oh god the secret discord cabal is real!
Your question jumps upon an assumption that I think anyone who takes issue with my stance is garbage which is not what I said and I’m not going to entertain it.
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eh…my money is very much on the idea that Ion and crew have gotten an idea or two reading in here.
I dont believe for a second that curiosity doesnt bring them here to see what the praises or complaints are in their work
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You’re good, Lio. Hope you and yours (and the rest of us crazies in here) have a safe and fun New Year’s Eve!
Oh man, I would totally cruise over here every now and then just to see what greek tragedies are unfolding - and I 100% include myself in self-deprecation here
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Probably a good idea.
Don’t think the mods would approve of that being defined here.
It’s my discord you silly /bonk
you used to be in here! XD
I asked ChatGPT to analyze the text
The TLDR
Being kicked from a dungeon in World of Warcraft is controversial because it can feel unfair and disruptive to players.
Kicking often happens without warning or explanation, and it can be used abusively by group leaders or other players for trivial reasons, such as class preference or personal biases. This practice can lead to frustration, as it disrupts gameplay and penalizes players who might be performing well or are new to the game. Additionally, there is often little recourse for players who are unjustly kicked, leaving them without a clear way to address or challenge the decision.
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You as well, friend. 
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Gotta love chat GPT lol
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that seems pretty accurate to me
I saw this recently
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I never said “your stance.” I said:
Should ask it for a list of solutions.
I wonder what it comes up with lol
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That’s wild. I asked Grok to summarize this thread and it told me to get a life.
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I think the favorite so far is a “soft kick” so that people who don’t want to group with someone but also understand that they didn’t do anything wrong don’t give the deserter buff.
I have also suggested that certain conditions would mark the kick as justified, such as the person being afk, and other conditions like no deaths, no keywords spoken, person is active as not applying the debuff. Simply because I don’t want people to be forced to play with others they don’t want to play with, but that person who was booted also shouldn’t have to wait out the debuff if they didn’t do anything wrong.
Finally, if the system created in this proposed idea deemed the kick to be frivolous then the group that kicked would not cut to the front of the line as normal, in fairness to the people already queued.
You fell pretty quick for the person lying about what I had said (Malgorok)
Lies and slander
Or truths and… Opposite word of slander
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Your answer is no then. It does not make you garbage.
I can try…
To limit griefing and unfair kicking in World of Warcraft dungeons, Blizzard has implemented several systems over the years, though none are perfect. Here are some key solutions:
Dungeon Finder Voting System: In WoW, players in a dungeon group can initiate a vote to kick another player. However, this requires a majority vote to be successful, which helps prevent solo or small group abuse. The system aims to ensure that kicks are more democratic rather than being controlled by a single player.
Kick Restrictions: Blizzard has implemented rules to prevent players from being kicked too quickly or without cause. For example, if a player has been in the group for a short amount of time (like under 10 minutes), the vote to kick may be restricted. This helps prevent abuse, especially early on in the dungeon.
Reputation & Penalties for Unjust Kicks: Blizzard has systems in place that can penalize players who engage in toxic behavior, including unjustified kicking. If a player repeatedly kicks others for no reason, their reputation can be harmed, potentially leading to penalties like temporary bans or increased restrictions on using group tools. This is intended to discourage griefing and make it more costly for players to engage in unfair kicking.
Group Finder Feedback: After a dungeon run, players can leave feedback about their group experience. While this feedback doesn’t directly address the kick, it can be a way for Blizzard to track patterns of abuse. If a player receives multiple negative reports for unjustified kicks or disruptive behavior, it may lead to account review or penalties.
Premade Groups and Guilds: One way to avoid being unfairly kicked is to form your own group with friends or guildmates. This gives you more control over your dungeon experience and reduces the likelihood of being kicked for arbitrary reasons. Many players prefer premade groups for this reason, as it’s easier to ensure a smoother, more enjoyable run.
Automated Anti-Griefing Measures: Blizzard has been working to improve automated systems that can detect and intervene in toxic behavior. For instance, the game may flag certain patterns of kicking or group behavior as suspicious, triggering automatic reviews or warnings for players engaged in toxic practices.
Though these solutions aim to limit unfair kicking and griefing, they are not foolproof. The community’s behavior ultimately plays a large role in reducing such issues, and some players may still exploit the system despite these measures.
They’re sealioning, don’t take the bait.
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My summary was incredibly accurate then, since I said you may or may not want checks you did
And you may or may not want people returned to the front of the que, and you did based on certain conditions
I remain lie free, unlike you
See, they had somekind of kick protection stuff back in BFA that I was in a time walking. We had a healer that joined and absolutely refused to heal and participate.
We were in a guild group. We tried to VTK this person multiple times cause they were not doing anything. Just sitting there and yelling in the chat at all of us.
Needless to say, that was the most infuriating thing I’ve ever had to deal with. Kick protections can be abused by people that will just want to be a butt.
The you and Malgorok thing I’m staying out of you two are doing your thing. I’ve known Malg for a long time (used to raid with him for a small time).
If you two have beef you two handle it yourselves. I’m staying out of that debacle.