The problem with a step system is once someone has something as a base feature they don’t want to lose it. What systems in the game do we lose as we progress through the game?
Do tell…
There you have it. You like to chat it up. I don’t play the game like you, does that make me wrong? I’m sure you think it’s inconceivable that I could care less if anything gets said. It probably leaves you awake at night wondering why that Druid didn’t return compliments. Not my cup of tea, I don’t want to be your friend.
You have an underlying need to chat in groups. I do not. I’m sure over the years you’ve found enough people to yuck it up in dungeons. Sounds like you’d be find RDF or no RDF.
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I mean whats the point rdf was made to make grouping easier on all levels it isnt easy or fun trying to level through dungeons when you got to replace 1 or 2 people wasting so much time for what.
Tbc and woltk dungeons are so close you can auto fly in mins what world immersion.
People dont really talk after the wisp inv goes out and the complementary hi hows it going is over what social interaction is that.
My compromise would be that RDF is available for all normal mode Dungeons, including WotLK. If you wanted to limit it for end game heroics I can see the argument there, but frankly the one thing RDF did do a good job at was making sure leveling content was available from the beginning to the end.
I can take it or leave it for end game, but for leveling I think it was a real boon.
I disagree with item 2. I know it feels this way because we’ve been running TBC for a while now, but you forget how fast 60-68/70 goes in wrath. Do most of HFP and half of zang and you’re ready to move on. I think TBC will be lively for few weeks/months and then be as dead as the old world. X-realm will be necessary. Teleportation is “meh”. Like you said, 2 minute flight anywhere but there isn’t really any meaningful “socialization” in those 2 minutes so teleportation would be fine
who are we comprising with lol ?
rdf in wow classic is fan fiction. it doesnt exist in this game.
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I’m not sure how to explain… I do feel immerse when travelling in the world of Warcraft. It also has to do with how immersion is broken when the entire party gets instantly teleported to the dungeon through an interface. And no, it’s not the same as warlock summon or summoning stone, both requires players interactions for summoning to happen. You know that something happen in game involving your party for that summon to pop. It’s not just an interface teleporting everyone.
It’s a bit of both… feeling immerse, and not breaking immersion.
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What you want, and what I want are fully compatible with one another. If you want to make friends along the way, that’s your business.
As for me? I want to log in and play. Any socializing I do will be solely within my guild. I’ve spent years of my life in Northrend. My immersion train left years ago.
Eh it’s more of a theoretical discussion at this point, which is fine.
I think lots of people are pretty much in the middle, they are fine with it either way, but they know both ways has their own issues. If players can come up with a nice middle ground maybe Blizzard thinks its a good idea and gives it a shot. Odds are it’s hot air but I think there is space where a middle ground between the two is actually really good for the game overall.
Great thing about message boards, you can discuss things even if there is no real point to it. I do it with a hockey message board probably way more than I should.
i agree with all of this, and of course thats what message boards are for.
but wow forums are different from wow reddit or wow fb pages, in that its obvious that posters are trying to cancel anything they dont like.
thats what aggravates me so much. the think they can bully other players into agreeing with them and they take this notion so seriously because they think blizzard is going to just implement every single thing they see a lot of people want on the forums.
too many legitimate posts against rdf or even middle ground on it are instantly flagged and removed because the average forum poster wants to silence anyone who disagrees with their preferences.
thats why i come in so hot on this place.
i used to be semi pro rdf, then i didnt care. now im so against it because it would mentally pain me to see so a bunch of entitled people cry until they get their way.
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Oh I get it, I’ve floated around in that same head space myself.
That said while I’ve been around long enough to know that most of this stuff is never seen, or if seen it goes in one ear and right out the other with Blizzard. However, occasionally something slips through the cracks and wiggles its way in there and a compromise thread is a pretty good place for that because lots of people come in with a different mind set.
I try not to take it too serious and once I figure out someone doesn’t really have a point to discuss and are simply there to pick anything apart no matter what it is then I’m pretty good at just moving on.
One thing about people like that, if they can’t get any oxygen they have no choice but to smolder out.
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While I get it, not everyone is hyper social and that is fine, but if you despise social interactions that much, maybe an MMORPG isn’t the best gaming option?
I tried to convince one of my friend to play wow for ever and the reason I never succeeded is exactly that, he wants to play multiplayer games, but not with unknown people. He is not interested into interacting with strangers, so he chose not to get into MMORPGs.
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I said the only people I want to socialize with are the ones in my guild and you’re assuming I’m anti social? Bit of a leap you took there.
Since I do five man, and raids, and PvP, and hardly anyone talks I’d say I’m pretty normal.
You don’t have to be super social with everyone you meet in an MMORPG, even OG WoW. But that’s not Wrath, either. They spent a long time improving soloability and solo play, and that’s what a lot of people want going into Wrath.
I didn’t say you were anti social, but it seems like you are limiting your interactions in WoW to the bare minimum… didn’t mean to disrespect.
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Personally, I find it distracting to type while healing. They should have integrated voip into the game 15 years ago. I got tired of random vents, team speak, and discords so I don’t bother anymore.
If they wanted people to be social they shouldn’t have outsourced it.
This is what a TON of pro RDF players have been saying for ages. The LFG tool right now could be easily fixed if it were to simply form a group automatically with the people listed in the tool.
That’s all I personally want, and I know that’s what a lot of others want as well. I want to Q, then go out and quest, farm mats, fish, whatever. Anything other than looking at and spamming in /4.
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Well they did try, and it was universally hated. Even at the time the community wasn’t as good as people claimed it was, and voice chat is… not always a good idea.
It was hated because it was crap. It lagged the living crap out of the game. They never bothered to sort it out.
A good fully integrated voice chat seems like a great idea! I would support that
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