I’m for it but they better hard set the flight speed to like 60% so its there for the players that need it but so tedious that theres still a reason to hop on a dragon
I just got a cool transmog mount that turns you into a ghostly eagle. I thought I was going to be able to fly out around like a dragon but I can’t fly in the dragon isles. In fact you can get several flying mounts in the dragon isles that you can’t actually even use in the dragon isles. Which is pretty weird.
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My guy wants to spend 3* the time doing the same activity. Why would they not let him. Let the minority roll out.
Did you ever consider using the motion sickness option in settings? 
IF not then do that, it helps alot.
What quests require flying? The dragon race ones? Aside from that I don’t think I’ve run into any quests that weren’t accessible via the ground. It’s just slower that way. I barely used dragonriding until after I hit max level on my first toon, and then I started for the sake of speed, not because I couldn’t reach objectives otherwise.
Places like ruby lifeshrine or obsidian citadel even have taxi NPCs to take you up/downstairs without flying yourself.
Dragonriding is incredible. Is should replace old flying all together. Old flying should only come back as an accessibility setting for the disabled.
The MCQ requires flying (How to Glide on your Dragon questline), and as far as I can tell Thaldraszus is entirely off if you don’t have access to flight (and I swam around the entire coastline from Waking Shores to Azure Span. I saw some promising cliffsides but they eventually reached unclimable terrain).
So, yes, you have to play with Toothless if you want to advance in the game outside of LFD.
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Gonna go out on a limb here and say “Why, so people can cheese the mining nodes etc or cheese the dragon glyphs? Its not really a good idea imo.”
I AGREE, Kimbo.
Flying should be a UTILITY…
NOT…an inconvenience.
For the people who LOVE flappy dragon glider gliding…rock-on!
But give the rest of us a PathFinder Option to traditional flight,
so we can use that Rare FelDrake you handed us…
Or was that just a little ironic joke on the players?
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I’m quite sure I’ll be “tarred and scaled” as a Pro Dragonriding player who hates any kind of a different opinion… but in short… I am in favor of the opposite OP… I truly hope that Blizzard backs down on adding ‘normal flying’ to Dragonflight… I truly hope that Blizzard rolls dragonriding backwards to old content, and forwards as the new ‘normal’ of flying… but, BUUUUUT… without completely condemning any valid arguments that people have made about their personal inability to dragonride, and disregard any disbelief on some of the arguments… if we take the argument of normal flight being “needed”… there is an easy compromise to the masses.
First, let’s get the Trunkalumpf addressed. My ‘compromise’ is the eventuality of adding regular flying to Dragonflight and future expansions, even though I am heavily in favor of essentially retiring the old system in the current and all future updates. I feel that keeping Dragonriding as the primary source of flying, and 8 months-1yr later adding the standard pathfinding is a respectful compromise to Dragonflight and the current system.
Option 1 - The under utilized mount equipment.
Now the easy argument here for all those who enjoy Dragonriding would be to use this slot to push Dragonriding on old mounts… but what if… what if “Pathfinding” in Dragonflight gave you a freebie mount equipment (buyable on alts - I’m an altoholic with 47 characters and I’m saying this) that unlocked standard flight up to the current expansion on all mounts that can fly in the journal… What this -would- do is fully disable dragonriding on all dragonriding mounts as well if you use this mount equipment, and downgrade your max speed to 310% while keeping Dragonriding properly at the blistering speed it currently has. An all or nothing solution. Downside to this system is, it would require the ‘passenger mode’ in any instanced content that uses Dragonriding… and if more than 2 players in a dungeon uses this mount equipment… the dungeon is basically finished before it starts. It is the cleanest solution to satisfy pro-Dragonriding players, would offer the ability to backwards roll Dragonriding to older zones, and satisfy players who have some varied inability to handle Dragonriding.
Option 2: Full flight revamp and replacement, with an exception…
Ok… this is where I might lose the script for some people. Plainly and transparently… I’m in full argument that Dragonriding is a long needed update to a system that always, as far back as BC, felt like a bolted on system simply trying to push innovation… and because they added flying, they couldn’t just turn it off… Almost every game nowadays has some form of glide/flight mechanic, and all have the common portion to it that gravity exists. You can’t hover indefinitely. You have to go back to ground at some point. WoW on the other hand does have a handful of arguments that could be made where Dragonriding would not make any sense as a primary system… so let’s address those.
-Any dungeon that uses the old method of flight - ie: Occulus, everyone’s ‘favorite’ WotLK dungeon. Any dungeon using this style vehicle flight should remain as is, that is, on the old/current system. I love the idea of balancing vigor and using the dragon abilities, but oooh booooy it wouldn’t be pretty for some players… so let’s keep it clean and leave that system alone.
-Any existing mount where dragonriding would not functionally make sense. We’re talking the Flying Machines, the rockets, the flower picking mechs, etc. These are, essentially, vehicles, without the vehicle bar. Leave these as-is, max their speed at 310% and call it a day. If the mount falls into any category of “This makes sense for it to use the vigor system” ie, any mount that has a real-to-life idea of creature flight that uses a soar/dive method, should by default use dragonriding and benefit from the dragonriding vigor system. So, old school Onyxian Drake? Dragonriding! Netherwing rep? Dragonriding! You got a dusty armored wyvern from the Pandaria 'warfront’y quest chain in Krasarang? For the Dragonriding!.. you get the point.
And before the “But Lyyyyneth…” remarks come in regarding stuff like the honeybee mount, etc, yes, these are technically real-to-life creatures, but don’t benefit from the soar/dive type system, so leave them bee! Ahem… I mean… they’d bee…err… be another outlet for those who don’t want to dragonride but might complain about the constant mech-noise of the other non dragonriding mounts to use instead. There are likely upwards of 40-50 mounts that easily fall into this category.
And look, I’m all for “letting people play the way they want to”… but systems change… and sometimes that changes the game to a point where we reconsider what we’re doing. I’ve been here since 2004. I hated the Cata talent revamp, and I play Ret… so I’m kind of used to being kicked around because someone at Blizz had a bad day, week, month, year, whatever… there have been points I’ve full on stopped playing and there have been points that I’ve basically gotten nothing done due to the systems that were in front of me… but Dragonflight is legit one of the only expansions I’ve had since at least WotLK that I’ve been teetering the needle toward “excited to log in”, and a good portion of that is due to Dragonriding. I am dreading the potential “nerf” to dragonriding that would occur if/when the complaining about not having standard flight goes from “I want standard flight” to “I have standard flight but everyone else is faster than me, buff me or nerf them”. Blizzard has some solid wins in this expansion, and Dragonflying is in fact one of them, for everyone who isn’t complaining about it anyway… Are there things Blizz could do better? Sure! And we’re just talking about the game… so for example… most of the mounts in this expansion that drop are… ground mounts? Reminiscent of WoD’s mount system… but we are not even a whole month into the expansion… give the game a chance to accumulate that first layer of dust before we start crying about changing everything. The trading post looks promising, assuming the currency doesn’t get spun too far one way or the other… who knows, maybe Blizzard will listen and remove dragonflying by the time Pathfinder gets introduced… or who knows, maybe us “Pro Dragonriding players who hate anyone who disagrees” will get ‘our’ way… more likely than not, it’ll be another flash in the pan system and Dragonriding will be viewed as the ‘borrowed power’ in 2024… but for now… I’m going to enjoy the hell out of it, and dread the slow mindless autorun-and-afk flying when I go to old content…
If they brought normal flying, make it locked behind a lengthy achievement process.
Technically fair? But completing the “here’s your dragon mount” quest and getting over a mountain into Thaldraszus amounts to less than 5 minutes of required flying, total. Some people are talking like a lot of questlines require flying and it’s a constant problem, which ime isn’t true at all.
they already do that as Pathfinder
So, just trying to help here. I’m not trying to argue for or against dragonriding but I have found a method that works for me and would like to share it in hopes that it would work for you too.
So, what I do is when I approach the area, I will tilt my mount up at a roughly 65-70 degree angle and ride up until my speed drops to a near halt. I flip around, pinpoint exactly where I want to land and either dive right to it or gliade down to it.
I hope this helps.
Would love to be able to use my regular mounts, even if it’s only with the flight controls we have with dragon flying. Because I worked hard to collect all of them and I miss them. 
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Regular flying as well as Dragon riding style across the board for thos who love it. I actually prefer it over the old school flight taxi style
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You are asking for both to co exist.
How others do not seem to see you are asking that baffles me unless you edited it.
Due to medical limitations you are asking to have both in this expansion.
Thats so reasonable its absurd especially in this climate of diversity…and especially inclusion…
Some people have motion sickness and you sound like one of them. My wife saw me flying and felt sick within maybe 10 seconds. For her she likes it but it would be a no go if she played again. Id have to do that riding specific stuff for her.
There should be an exception even if added later that allows for this.
Its one thing to just not like something…its another to be physically unable to play with a feature implemented.
I hope Blizzard can work this out and you can enjoy the expansion as much as I am.
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What will happen to all the mounts collected over the years?
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i agree regular flying is best.
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these types of people care only about themselves. they are narcissists to the core.
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