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Hey all, Gloombot here! I help run the Alliance guild- No Refunds, on Stormrage – US.

Scroll down to raid days and times if you are in a rush! We understand! – Please Note: before you scroll down. We’re Semi-Hardcore. Not casual.

Our guild only wants old school veteran raiders from previous expansions. We’re building up for Shadowlands. We will accept newcomers who are willing to learn and put the time into raiding in a semi-hardcore raiding environment. We do have a lot of veteran raiders with server first kills from previous expansions. We tell you this not to gloat, but to assure you of our credibility as raiders.

About Us

We would classify our guildmates as semi-hardcore raiders. We take raiding seriously. We expect you to know your class, spec, and research fights you’ve never done before. We aren’t brand new. However, we aren’t over the top raiders. What does that mean? Simple. We aren’t elitist, toxic, sexist, racist, we don’t age discriminate, (most of us are older), we don’t yell, scream, or harass people here. Not big on guilt tripping, getting political on people, griefing, spamming, and putting others down. But please don’t misinterpret our message here. We still want you to be yourselves, joke around, troll us a little. Have a good time here, make friends! We are a raiding guild, yes, but also a community guild. We strive to bring back that old school Vanilla WoW and Burning Crusade feel where everyone knows each other, and we do more than just getting on every week to raid.

We are almost done building our raid groups for Shadowlands. We have six raid groups. Yes, you read that right. Six raid groups. Each has an Officer, Raid Leader, Raid Assists, and semi-hardcore raiders, ready to down bosses. Below are the group names, days, times, and what each raid group is seeking. NOTE: Any classes you see below are the only classes and specs the guild is seeking currently. We recruit on a first come first serve basis. Thank you for understanding.

Raid Group 1 – MYTHIC RAID TEAM -The Refundables – Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays – 7:00 pm to 10:00 pm EST/SERVER

Raid Group 1 is locked and seeking nothing at this time.

Raid Group 2 – MYTHIC RAID TEAM - Waifu Warriors – Thursdays and Fridays – 7:00 pm to 11:00 pm EST/SERVER

Raid Group 2 is seeking the following:

Blood DK, Protection Paladin, Brew Master Monk, Guardian Druid, or Protection Warrior

Raid Group 3 – MYTHIC RAID TEAM – Noobs with a Dream – Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays 8:00 pm to 11:00 pm EST/SERVER

Raid Group 3 is seeking the following:

Mistweaver Monk

Havoc Demon Hunter
Enhancement Shaman

Raid Group 4 – MYTHIC RAID TEAM - Bro It’s a Ring of Peace – Saturdays and Sundays 9:00 am to 12:00 pm EST/SERVER

Raid Group 4 is locked and seeking nothing at this time.

Raid Group 5 – HEROIC RAID TEAM – Wipes on Trash – Fridays and Saturdays 8:00 pm to 11:00 pm EST/SERVER

The Heroic Team is more laid back for people who only want to do AOTC IN SL.

Raid Group 5 is seeking the following:

Protection Warrior, Brew Master Monk, Protection Paladin, Vengeance Demon Hunter, or Guardian Druid

Mistweaver Monk

Havoc Demon Hunter
Wind Walker Monk
Feral Druid

Marksman or Beast Mastery Hunter
Shadow Priest
Affliction Warlock
Arcane or Frost or Fire Mage
Elemental Shaman – (Yes, we want you.) The person who breaks the nerf cycle.

Raid Group 6 – MYTHIC RAID TEAM – Simp for Parses – Fridays and Saturdays 11:00 pm to 2:00 am, EST/SERVER

Raid Group 6 is locked and seeking nothing at this time.

Raid Rules

Here at No Refunds we are chill when it comes to rules. However, we have a few minor 101 raiding rules that you should be aware of in a Semi-Hardcore raiding and community guild. We have Officers, Raid Leaders, Raid Assists, and Veteran Raiders who notice toxicity and drama bombs from a mile away. If you are brand new to the guild, raid group, or a veteran of the guild and the raid group you’re in, we expect the following from you:

  1. Please don’t tell the Raid Leader how to lead. You can offer a different strategy to them before or after the raid. Our Raider leaders are very open-minded and have no problem learning from other experienced players. But there is a time and place for it, not in the middle of a pull.
  2. When a Raid Leader or Raid Assist tells you to do something (within reason). Do it. Don’t challenge them or waste the raid groups time. We can and will bench you for the night and PUG someone if we have to.
  3. Please don’t talk over the assists or correct them on something they already know. They are there to help you. If a Raid Leader misses a week because of an emergency or computer/internet issue, do not take it upon yourself to lead the raid group. If we need some assistance from you in this regard, we will approach you if we feel you are capable and/or ready. The Raid Assists will take over should a Raid Leader not be present.
  4. Be on early and on time for our Raids. We provide your flask, food, and potion raiding materials.
  5. Please don’t play the “he said/she said” game with us. If you are brand new to the guild, even if you roll with us for a long time, we know how to recognize and root out toxicity and drama. We are very quick to act. So please refrain from joining us if this is something you enjoy doing on a daily basis. We are not a good fit for you if this is the case.

Raid Attendance

Here at No Refunds, we appreciate people’s real-life schedules over World of Warcraft. Whether it’s a demanding job even during this scary pandemic, marriage, kids, or you just need to take a mental health day. All you have to do is @ us in your specific discord chat channel. The Raid Leader, Raid Assist, Officer, and Raiders all know at the same time you can’t make it. While you might be used to messaging a GM or CO-GM, Raid Leader, or Officer. If it isn’t a personal matter. Just @ the group in your discord raid channel. – This mindset for the guild is for normal and heroic raiding. – Mythic is full attendance and on time. NO EXCEPTIONS. Unless a real-life emergency occurs. The Mythic Raid team will understand! Real life > WoW.

Guess what? You won’t be benched, replaced, yelled at, drama bombed. None of that stuff. You just come back the next day or next week. Going on a vacation, wedding, or job schedule shift? No problem! Just @ us in your respective raid channel the days and times you’ll be gone and when you get back. We will be here waiting to greet you when you return! That’s it. Simple as that!

@ing us in the right discord channel is your primary guild rule in the entire guild. It outweighs even the raid rules. If you can’t @ us in your respective channel days or even hours ahead of time, we aren’t going to remove you from guild. However, these groups are farming heroic for mythic or pushing mythic. If you want to mythic raid here, it isn’t going to get dramatic, but we are Semi-Hardcore. That means when it’s raid time, it’s raid time. If you are in a normal or heroic group, people can manage, but when the rosters are locked for Mythic, RAID TIME IS RAID TIME! No exceptions! If you fail to @ us in your respective channel, don’t show up to raid, are consistently late, and no show, don’t be shocked if you get replaced. We are not going to hold back an entire raid team because YOU can’t commit to one major yet simple rule.

We understand if real life emergencies happen. That is way more important than WoW. But do not mistake us, if real life emergencies are happening every week, every raid day, we will eventually ask you to take a (temporary) seat. So please don’t take offense, we have raiders to look out for.

Loot Rules

We don’t have any 101 rules. Each raid team has their own set of rules regarding loot. We just suggest you help your fellow raid members. Example: You get three or four best in slot pieces in one night. If one of them is another raider’s best in slot, consider giving them one piece. Just be cool. Be an adult, a team player and help progress as a guild and raid group. Just make sure you know what your best in slots are and not an upgrade. Please, do your research! Again, simple as that!

Semi-Hardcore Defined

(I am saying this in the nicest way I can. Yet I can’t believe I have to define what this is for some people this late in WoW’s timeline). We aren’t a hardcore guild. We don’t want to be a top 100 guild. A top 200 guild. We want to down the heroic or mythic content on our own humane terms. For you see, we are just as skilled as a hardcore raider. We just don’t have the time to raid forty to sixty hours a week. However, we are Semi-Hardcore. Meaning we aren’t casual raiders. We raid two to three days a week for a minimum of six hours a week to a maximum of nine hours a week.

Just because our hours are shorter, and we don’t want to be a top U.S. Guild doesn’t mean we want slackers or people getting carried by us. We expect you to have perfect attendance if you’re joining a Mythic raid team. Know your class, your spec, positioning, have the proper raiding addons, a decent microphone to communicate. If this part of our post sounds new to you, please with all due respect, don’t apply to us. We aren’t a casual guild. We have no issues with casual players, we just aren’t seeking to build a casual guild. “Semi-Hardcore” Please understand this before applying. Thank you!

Closing Statements

We plan on setting up community events outside of raiding. Established M Plus teams, T-Mog runs, Achievement runs, Legacy/Feat of Strength runs. World PVP, BG and Arena teams. We have officers setting these parts up for the guild.

All the Raiders, Raid Leaders, Raid Assists, Officers, and Co-GM’s know everyone pretty well here. If you intend to apply to our guild, please seriously evaluate if you match up with our goals both as a progression-based guild and a toxic free community environment. Be honest with yourself and us. We know who we want playing with us and who we don’t want playing with us. This isn’t to turn you off to joining us. It is intended to make sure you seriously consider what we have told you here. If you have any questions concerning this or if anything is unclear, please have those questions ready for us during the interview process. We will be happy to clarify.

We are building our foundation for Shadowlands. During this building process the guild is on vacation. No one is raiding right now. We want a great community. We’d love to have you with us. If this guild sounds like a good fit for you: A drama free community, who doesn’t ask for much, wants you to have fun, down Mythic content without all the yelling and immature antics, then please consider reaching out! We are No Refunds and we are sure if you roll with us you won’t have buyer’s remorse. Thank you for reading and we look forward to hearing from you.

Please message Gloombolts, Thermalbot, Impdi, Janciana, Linasha, Hankytanky, Mirtazapine, Kuyote, Divinesteve, Healsforhire, Møuntain, Damïa, or Rotank.

You can add me on real ID: Rhyan#11764

Discord: Venris#3529

Have a good day or night everyone! Hope to hear from you soon!

No Refunds!!!


Come join group 5, we are the best of the best, the crème de la crème

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Come check us out, even if your not sure we might be a good fit. You might be surprised and find your home for shadowlands.

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Everyone here is pretty laid back and really friendly, awesome community and its obvious everyone here is what’s described above.

P.S. Group 5 is the best :slight_smile:

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Everyone knows you’re only cool if you join No Refunds.

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Join us for fun and prog :slight_smile:


Awesome group of people. Definitely worth your time.


Join us! a great community to make friends get help and push content

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Great group of people with communicative leadership, come.

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Come join group 3! My raid team is chill.

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Who’s gonna be the group 3 disc priest? Join us and show everyone that Alliance can be better than the horde!


Hand wave This is the guild your looking for.

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New to the party, but great group of people.

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Noobs with a Dream is the best team btw, you should join it


Here we are once more, the way to tomorrow casted in fear

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Lots of cool people here. Looking forward to raiding with group 3 come Shadowlands!

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Come join Wipes on Trash, the heroic group with the chill and the kills! We only wipe on trash a little bit. <3

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Fun fact: Wipes on Trash’s graduating class voted them most likely to succeed three years in a row. Join today!

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Lots of different raid groups to meet different people’s schedules. Great group of people with which to play the game!

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Do the TankyHanky and ____________________!

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