A new take on player housing

[Frostymae-sulfuras]

you should. good thread

[Styg-earthfury]

@Styg-earthfury

but that’s precisely how they should add it. just one style per expansion or every second expansion if they want. they dont’ have to release it as if its been around 20 years right off the bat, i don’t get how they couldn’t do exactly that and slowly release it over the span of several expansions. its just an excuse not to do it.

i mean, that’s how they do everything else. how is that not an appealing way, it’ll draw housing players in when they release a new housing style. if they release 20 at once, there’s nothing really to look forward to and one new one won’t have as much impact.

i don’t think anyone is asking for a fully fleshed out, 50 style housing system right away. add a nice theme every expansion, people will be happy. they seem to be able to do two like with garrison so they can do a style for each faction or two styles available for both. i see that as a reasonable addition housing wise.

oh, and just reuse assets for one raid, raiders might cry but they’ll get a raid they can do with minimal art work for their artists. or better yet, use assets already in the game for the initial housing, i don’t think anyone really wants BRAND NEW looking items right away, i’d be happy to be able to place the items that are already seen all over the game.

i just want a few kegs and a bed. gimme a couch to sit on and a parrot for entertainment. that’s it. i’m happy with housing.

this and this and this. will always be my main point for player housing.

[Isveria-moon-guard]

@Attimis-moon-guard

If Player Housing is launched without any mechanics similar to garrisons, its merely a RP property. “Wasted resources” that could detract from the original payload of the next expansion.

Yeah kind of like if they made player customizations a big expansion feature…haha…oh wait they did that last expansion! New character customization options was literally one of the main selling points of Shadowlands lmao and that’s way less of a gameplay impact than Housing.

RP and player customization and choice are huge and they are big time and money sinks for players which is exactly the type of evergreen content that WoW benefits from and keeps people subbing. People spending time and money and gold farming furniture or grinding professions to make rare furniture etc. creates an entirely new economy and way to play the game as seen in other games with housing. It allows professions to gain new relevance and be expanded in an evergreen way as well.

[Bulakzebgor-faerlina]

@Styg-earthfury

will always be my main point for player housing.

but attimis has provided very clear talking points about how player housing would be bad for world of warcraft and i would have to agree.

[Tovi-moon-guard (Tovi)]

@Attimis-moon-guard

If Player Housing is launched with the same mechanics as garrisons, we have a WoD 2.0.

@Tovi-moon-guard

The way to not have WoD 2.0 is to just not have WoD 2.0. It’s really that simple.

@Attimis-moon-guard

“Wasted resources”

This is in the eye of the beholder. It’s not wasteful to people that really want it.

And it’s funny that you guys all think raiders, pvpers and mythic+ wouldn’t want PH. I bet there’s plenty of them that would.

@Attimis-moon-guard

Everybody is a forced introvert.

I have no idea what you mean by this.

[Swainley-moon-guard]

@Attimis-moon-guard

If Player Housing is launched with the same mechanics as garrisons, we have a WoD 2.0.

Good thing it probably won’t be launched with the same mechanics.

@Attimis-moon-guard

If Player Housing is launched without any mechanics similar to garrisons, its merely a RP property.

Good.

@Attimis-moon-guard

“Wasted resources” that could detract from the original payload of the next expansion.

What? It’s free money for Blizzard if they put housing assets in the shop. What “payload?” What even is a “payload?”

@Attimis-moon-guard

And then what do you know. Everybody is a forced introvert.

If it’s RP-related and optional, no one is “forced.”

Yeah, I don’t really think you know what player housing really is or even how it works.

[Bulakzebgor-faerlina]

@Swainley-moon-guard

@Attimis-moon-guard

“Wasted resources” that could detract from the original payload of the next expansion.

What? It’s free money for Blizzard if they put housing assets in the shop. What “payload?” What even is a “payload?”

it would be wasted resources if no one ends up using those assets.

[Swainley-moon-guard]

@Bulakzebgor-faerlina

but attimis has provided very clear talking points about how player housing would be bad

They’re clearly bad talking points, sure.

@Bulakzebgor-faerlina

i would have to agree.

That’s because you have the critical thinking skills of a dead squirrel.

[Adorability-moon-guard]

“Forced introvert”

I’m looking at a full Limsa rn.

[Jasse-uldum]

Inb4 Lumberjack and Carpenter get added as new professions to make furniture.

Or they can add it to the others, doesn’t matter how its done as long as that’s one way to get stuff for the house.

[Tovi-moon-guard (Tovi)]

@Swainley-moon-guard

That’s because you have the critical thinking skills of a dead squirrel.

[Bulakzebgor-faerlina]

@Swainley-moon-guard

@Bulakzebgor-faerlina

but attimis has provided very clear talking points about how player housing would be bad

They’re clearly bad talking points

im sorry but i have to disagree… i have read the entire thread of posts that attimis linked and i truly want to thank him because he has wonderful insights into this topic and i wholeheartedly agree with him.

[Sendryn-sentinels]

@Tovi-moon-guard

@Attimis-moon-guard

Everybody is a forced introvert.

I have no idea what you mean by this.

He means that, like so many other people who have never played a game with player housing, it’ll be just like Garrisons. And it won’t.

Player housing does not “force” anyone into anything, people don’t spend day and night in their housing plots, there are no quests, dailies, gathering, etc. in real player housing.

@Swainley-moon-guard

Yeah, I don’t really think you know what player housing really is or even how it works.

None of these people who are against it know what they’re talking about.

[Swainley-moon-guard]

@Bulakzebgor-faerlina

no one ends up using those assets.

I guarantee you someone would use assets, bro.

[Isveria-moon-guard]

@Jasse-uldum

Inb4 Lumberjack and Carpenter get added as new professions to make furniture.

Or they can add it to the others, doesn’t matter how its done as long as that’s one way to get stuff for the house.

Yeah, it’s going to change the game permanently the same way the Transmog feature did. A “useless RP feature” that has become a staple core part of the game for much of the playerbase. Farming and grinding and trading and crafting. Gonna be exciting for sure!

[Bulakzebgor-faerlina]

@Swainley-moon-guard

I guarantee you someone would use assets,

would enough people use the assets to justify the large amount of time and money blizzard spent on creating those assets, though?

[Jasse-uldum]

It would singlehandedly get me to play WoW forever. Blizzard should consider adding player housing!

[Bulakzebgor-faerlina]

@Jasse-uldum

It would singlehandedly get me to play WoW forever.

but would it get other people to play the game? wow can’t live on one subscription fee alone.

[Tovi-moon-guard (Tovi)]

Yeah if they did it right, I would probably quit SWTOR for good.

[Swainley-moon-guard]

@Bulakzebgor-faerlina

i have read the entire thread of posts that attimis linked and i truly want to thank him because he has wonderful insights into this topic and i wholeheartedly agree with him.

no one speaks like this

Sorry, Attimis, you’re the one getting more trolled than all of us.