I’m sorry, but the whole question was about the whole “ new Nerubian Alliance Race”, as they’ve said no plans in TWW, but who knows what’s planned after.
I think Harronir which hasn’t been confirmed not to be playable might have a chance this coming expansion. (Night Elf reskin).
But don’t get me wrong, the new Nerubians look friggen awesome, we need more unique races rather then reskins.
skaven are copyrighted by games workshop
stop being silly tiger
ew rats suck
Damn you ruined it for me and now I can’t un see it. That definitely looks like a dwarf in a kobold mask 
#StillBetterThanDwarves3.0
So, you want Niffen with tails?
they have rat folk, they are called Vulpera.
Can I have playable Quillboars first?
It’s what the Blood Elves should have been more like. Not exactly, but closer than now, that’s for sure.
Funny, that’s exactly how I feel about people who want Warcraft to be a cheesy moralistic peacecraft pile of garbage that actually think the lore justifies your view when the vast majority recognize the lore is the worst it has ever been barring SL.
No, Tiger. While I do like the SPIRIT behind the skaven and want more of that in WoW, the vision you have for a rat people race is just too derivative for me to support. I’m sorry.
They are actually called vulpera.
too late they are on their way people.
Well. I understand your possition. But RatFolk have been a fantasy staple that leads back to folklore and fairy tails. If the model was prohibitive in modern gaming. The World of Warcraft could not have Paladins, Taurens, Elves, Vulpera, Orcs, or even Humans in the game on the premise that these have been used in other games or fantasy literature movies etc.
Just think of the problem like this: Directive negates the use of Elves in Wow because they were already used as characters in Lord of the Rings. Or any Final Fantasy etc.
Just saying. If this were the case, most of the races in Wow would have to be removed.
As I noted earlier in this thread. Ratfolk, Rat People, Humanoid Rats etc. Are a basic element in fantasy stories and gaming. The only thing copyrightable is an exclusive name in a work of literature /art. Therefore the name given to the Ratfolk must be something other than Skaven for Wow to use such a Ratfolk Character or race.
Think of it this way: When Clint Eastwood made the movie Dirty Harry. That did not mean other movie companies could not make a movie about a tough Detective with a big gun.
Other studios could make similar movies but they can’t call the Detective “Dirty Harry.” They must call the Detective something else like Angus Mc Duffy. Etc.
Same goes for Western movies and games. Imagine a game company being told they can’t make a Cowboy Gunfighter game and include; Gunfighters, Native Americans, Settlers, School Moms, Saloons, Horses, Cattle, Colt 45 revolvers, Winchester Rifles. Because these things were used in other cowboy movies and games.
Yes, but not necessarilly specifically depicted the same way as you want them to be, which is very much a warhammer creation.
It isn’t just about the existence of rat men, elves, minotaurs, or orcs. It’s how they are depicted.
This is why I HATE how blood elves are depicted. They used to be almost utterly unique. Was there some influence of warhammer druchii in there? Yea, but it was still different enough to not seem unoriginal. Now they are depicted pretty much no differently than any other fantasy elf. Utterly derivative, unimaginative and boring.
Rat men as you want them? Literally just Warhammer’s skaven. Carbon copied into wow. It goes against everything I stand for.
Yes I do want Ratfolk like they are in other games depicted. And as they are described in other games. You are correct. And I think I understand your opinion to a degree. But I’m not very sure I understand you fully. I get that you prefer characters/races, which are unique unto themselves. Perhaps also that any particular race/species in a game or movie or literature is fully developed with perhaps a identifiable individual personality as it were.
Am I reading you right?
Would you like to expand on your opinion please. I’m curious to know more.
Thank you.
What other games do you know of that depict ratfolk like the Skaven of Warhammer?
If it were just a common depiction, an archetype, I could accept the idea. However I need more than just the rat people of warhammer acting like that to justify Blizz adding a race that is the same in every way, except MAYBE name, which we haven’t even established yet.
Dungeons and Dragons, Everquest. To name two. But generally speaking on the fantasy genre depiction of Ratfolk:
Ratfolk have for a majority of fantasy literature, movies and gaming have always for the most part been depicted as having evil personalities and behaviors. To start with lets look at why that is and why they are depicted as they are going back to Dungeons and Dragons, Everquest, Fairy tails, and mythology.
Now here I will say to people who have rats for pets i.e. domesticated lab created rats. This is a whole different species. But for Wild rats out in the field they have a well earned reputation of being extremely feral. Most civilizations have always considered rats to be filthy despicable creatures, plague carriers. Rabid and dangerous by their very nature. Yet they are also very cunning animals that exhibit some measure of malevolent intelligence.
Before modern gaming rats have always been creature to abhor, fear, and kill on site. This is a common theme throughout history. Literature, Cinema, and gaming depict them as this. And the Skaven in Warhammer who have reached a humanoid status and are organized in social clans similar to Orcs. Are the top of the line Evil nightmare monster. They are depicted in Warhammer exactly and the only way such humanoid rats could possibly be depicted. These are not nice creatures period. That is why they make the perfect villainous race for all fantasy stories.
And that’s why I would like them added to Wow. So that players who want to play as a pure and true evil race have the option to do so.
I know of no recognized universally evil ratfolk in dnd… let alone ones that are similar to skaven in the ways you want.
I don’t know enough everquest to even say one way or the other.
Gonna need proof in both cases. You assert that skaven has become a generalized term, and I see no proof of that.
Yes yes, I get the idea of using history to justify ratpeople being evil. The claim that skaven are the only way rat people could be depicted is another matter.
Fact is, we already have ratfolk, whether you think they are goofy or not.
If Blizzard wanted to added an evil race, they already have options without just uncreatively carbon copying Warhammer.
I don’t consider it an opinion that it’s poor creative design to fail to give your characters individuality and to practically plagiarize concepts from other works. Inspiration is one thing, what you are asking is another.
Like think of how scary rats are at the size of 10 inches. The fear they induce in humans. Then make them as tall as a human standing on hind legs with a muscular body and being all teeth and claws. Add to that that they would be carrying weapons to boot and place it in a swarm of thousands. These things would be the scariest monsters in wow.
kobolds. only took me like 1 minute.