A New Hope

I mean yeah, we got some nice options if you count the Human customization we got, but that is just Blizzard copying that over from Humans. Also, again, I don’t count that as WORGEN customization because I don’t play worgen to be a human.

If you look at the worgen (male since I only play those) we got some eye colors, 1 new ear, and 6 new fur colors (5 of which were dumb, seriously 2 were stripes, 1 was some Scar from Lion King wannabe, 1 is a weird brown mane with a grey body fur color?, and then the last is half black and half white)

Worgen got screwed, it was like Blizzard put an intern responsible for their customization and gave them 2 weeks to do it.

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Nightborne got the best customization :^)

They don’t count because Blizzard said Allied Races will get their customization later.

Worgen got the most important update ever. Separate customization between worgen and human forms.

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SS of the forsaken ship? I did the war campaign for both sides and never saw a single Zandalari fighting until the Nazmir event

I hope you are joking. No doubt that is an AMAZING update, something that should have been the case when they were introduced, but I’d hardly call that customization.

But it is. You have more than a hundred times the possible character looks available to you than you had before.

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Last I checked I didn’t select Worgen to play a Human. If I wanted to play that I would have selected Stormwind Humans as the race I play.

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https://www.wowhead.com/npc=145635/invading-axe-thrower#models

I can give you screenshots of the ships attacking the seagate if you want, but there’s your evidence of Zandalari presence.

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Ah I see the problem, wowhead points this npc uses either Zandalaris and Darkspear models as part of the generic generator enemy code.

So this enters in fimlsy canon at best, the same way as the KT npc captured nearby of the tortolla beach in Zuldazar

Way back in Cata Forsaken pretty much rolled all over EK and established their foothold. And as a more recent example the Forsaken were successful repelling the united Alliance force from Undercity which is something Night elves could not do. To be fair Forsaken had a bit more help from their allies, because logistics only applies to Alliance for some reason. The only reason why they lost is because of deus ex machina Jaina saving the entire Alliance twice from Sylvanas’ clearly cunning schemes that could have never been predicted, such as using the blight or setting a trap.

It literally says Sylvanas isn’t evil.

No, there are actually thousands of people who think that the Teldrassil story was bad and that killing 1 Val’kyr didn’t make up for it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/bv0vg7/when_blizz_says_you_got_your_revenge_for_the/

They have often stated it as a great event and used it for people to cheer for, they also whitewashed most of the people involved including Saurfang and Sylvanas.

It is exactly what was told.

Only “crazy” Tyrande hasn’t forgiven. Shandris has.

What do you mean? There is no leader section and Sylvanas is multiple times listed on the forsaken page.

Pay attention to the story :roll_eyes:

It was an entire zone full of civilians and enough souls for Sylvanas to become that powerful.

It still means that Tyrande got all the revenge she was going to get in 8.1, and there’s no denying that.

It’s just you spinning things around honestly, it’s the same people that compare Taurajo to the War of Thorns.

He played a role in the story for about 8.0 until 8.1, then he was gone so that Talanji can become queen.

How does one get this quest?

Do the entire night warrior questline that starts in boralus by picking up a letter from Tyrande that is with Dorithur, a green Owl.

Have at least one darkshore warfront complete.
Go to darkshore and find Maiev.

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We both know blizzard hates the worgen. They basically told us in the heritage armor quest we suck for liking them and the worgen are nothing more than Angry Humans with a skin condition and they’ll all die out in a generation or two

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It also says she’s just protecting her people. Which we know is false because she got a bunch of them killed. And let’s not forget, it isn’t just Night elf souls getting sent to the maw.

Think it’s bad, sure. Including a lot of Horde posters on these forums. But there are a choice few who are foaming at the mouth about on these forums.

To invoke emotion. They have never stated genocide = good.

Saurfang is dead. And Sylvanas is still being held accountable in the story going forward. D again, this is why Tyrande, Thrall and others are going after her.

Just because you think it won’t amount to anything doesn’t mean the story isn’t continuing.

No, it wasn’t.

Quote the line stating she’s forgiven them.

Go ahead.

I’ll wait.

Not as their current leader. Shadows Rising even states that Voss is the leader at present.

Night Elves: still in the story (refugees described as filing up Stormwind and having to camp in Elwynn) and still playable (can create a night elf character any time). They have roles in the recent novel and lots of content in SL.

You’re wrong.

Alliance were charged with rescuing 1000. Until you can produce something more concrete than your assumptions it’s the only hard number we have.

You have no numbers, you have only guesses.

And now it’s moving into the next expansion. Resolutions don’t always happen in the span of a single patch.

Nah, just pointing out that you wanting stuff to happen along a certain timeframe doesn’t mean it will happen in that timeframe and I gave historical precedence.

In Vanilla. Just not with a character model. You are wrong.

:pancakes:

Now now, don’t feel like Blizzard singles Worgen out specifically. The truth is they don’t really care for any of the Alliance races at all. It’s not so much hatred as it is abject indifference.

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And in Mists of Pandaria. Lorewalker Cho tells a story at one point about Zandalar sinking when the Zandalari show up. Rastakhan is heavily mentioned along with Zul.

I can’t remember where is he mentioned in Vanilla. Stranglethorn with the Zandalari you help regarding Zul’Gurub?

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I suppose that’s true, if it’s not human, they don’t care. Can’t have that precious Human Potential go to waste after all.

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They don’t care about most humans either, they just have a handful of staff members in love with the Wrynns.

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