“Initiative” suggests that one gets there before the other, and that they are at an advantage by being there. You “literally” do not get to SH after us, or Balinda after us. You arrive to an area with your NPCs providing support. You literally have an advantage at that fight. What is insane is you and your ilk denying that fact.
What is with the outright lies of late? Your faction routinely rides right through and beyond all of SH/Bal along the west edge of the map (rather than a direct route south, because hey, pvp slows you down).
NOTHING prevents you from zerging directly to IBGY, taking it, then back capping your stuff. Unless you are going to pretend that IB choke is already being defended by horde. Because of the mystical racial that all horde have, the innate ability to be at more than 1 place at once.
Seeing as you habitually manufacture numbers and statistics out of your nether regions, yeah, most of what you spout can be routinely ignored outright.
how come only the alliance are whining about av?..because they are losing.
So we agree NPCs are not an issue. This is good we are getting somewhere. The discrepancy in win rates/game quality is the issue I think people (at least those on alliance) are complain about the most.
I believe its reasonable too assume that the skill/coordination distribution between Horde and Alliance is relatively even. So where do these dependencies come from?
Perhaps mentality plays a part but I think you give that way too much credit, but you are welcome to your opinion. Perhaps horde just has overhelmingly more great PvPers, probably unlikely as again I think its fair to say distribution is rather even. Or perhaps there is a difference in the amount of coordination required to execute the winning strategy depending on which side of the map you start on.
Isn’t it much more enjoyable to have a constructive conversation :3
where did you get that?
the worst-case scenario ( for alliance) is 5 horde out. 35V40 is a big deal.
I believe its reasonable too assume that the skill/coordination distribution between Horde and Alliance is relatively even.
no. not at all. for the past months every good alliance PvP’er has been trying as hard as they could to not include any of the common plebs in their premade. We had discord server with interview/screening process to make sure plebs didn’t get in, it’s the main reason behind the latest AV change, and the top-pvp’er are now premading in WSG while queue dodging horde premade… pretending the skill distribution on alliance is the same as the horde is absolutely laughable.
your premice being obviously flawed, the rest of your post isn’t worth reading.
There was an alliance a couple days ago literally claiming horde got to Balinda long before alliance can.
Nothing at all was “twisted” from what they posted.
Cool, so now I’ll say that the alliance are losing because aliens are controlling their minds.
Now that I’ve said it you can quote it as fact and add it to your arguments.
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The weirdest thing is that after TWO consecutive fix to prevent premade to queue against pug a pocket of scummy players still actively seek ways to abuse it and now jumped on the WSG scouting train.
Mass honor reset to every rank 13+ alliance should be a thing.
we don’t run in perfectly straight lines through mountains
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Well I tried to have a reasonable discussion but you seem to be too emotional from accusing me of having stances I never took to openly mocking my constructive feed back. I feel sorry for you if you truly believe that the apparent imbalance is just because ‘no good alliance players do AV’ which if you could stop seeing red is quite a stretch.
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I feel sorry for you for not realizing it is indeed 100% just this.
You don’t need to measure a bunch of things to see the horde cave is closer to the middle… which is all the image shows.
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you’re ignoring the past months of alliance premade in AV… we had a dozen thread per day about it… they are the driving force behind the last change.
yet, you ignoring all of it is supposed to be reasonable?
GTFO
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I think what it would need to buy is a chance for an elite ninja stealth team to sneak by the respawning Horde and start grabbing rear objectives.
That’s something an individual can bring to the table, since you can queue with up to 5, at least if you play a rogue or Druid and have 4 other friends that do.
And by the way… this applies even if Alliance loses initial skirmish.
Dude calm down. What exactly am I ignoring?
yes. good alliance player don’t mix with plebs. more news at 11.
Now, since you apparently can’t even keep your own stance logical and have suddent surge of alzheimer in between posts, i’ll stop losing time with you.
Aww cute, tossing insults yet I am being unreasonable. I suggest learn what a bell curve is, I think you could benefit. Considering you were blaming a “Losser mentality” and now its “Good players and Plebs don’t mix” sounds like that alzheimer talk is just you projecting. <3
/doublefacepalm
Let’s change this. #Somechanges to keep Subs, right Blizz?
They did nerf Orc racial a lot for a reason 