A Guild Trying Hard to Salvage a Failing Server and Community

It’s not that I want to transfer. I really don’t, but as it stands now unless Blizzard actually does a bit of work and does something about it, Whitemane is gonna lose even more Alliance. We’re 26% today. Now while that hasn’t ruined us THAATT hard TODAY, here’s what the future looks like as far as game content:

Mt. Hyjal/ ZA/ Sunwell cannot be accessed thru flying mounts. That’s 3 out of the 4 next raids to come out. We’ll have to ride on the ground to these raids, and if what I hear is true, there will be pretty much no alliance left on the server by the time BT/Hyjal launches.

Netherwing quests, and eventually the isle of quel danas will become gankfest island, and we’ll be extremely outnumbered at all times.

Then theres the prospect of the economy eventually getting completely destroyed because all the alliance are gone.

Basically I am saying that the rest of the game is going to become unplayable on Whitemane. Both raid content AND non raid content.

This is completely Blizzard’s fault. Time after time, game after game, they have failed to support their games. Their ineptitude coupled with “gaming” culture put us in the situation we’re in. but alas here we are.

Their free transfer idea a while ago was a deliberate attempt to make money off of the “megaserver” trend, so they’re not at all interested in server health, but more quick monies. So I did start this earlier with saying “unless blizzard does something”, but we all know they won’t.

Recruitment isn’t a main gain for us to move to benediction, we already have an insane team that will clear all the raids, the real issue is that we simply won’t be able to play the rest of the game if the rest of alliance whitemane leaves after S2 ends. SO IDK. BC at its core was/is one of my favorite games of all time. It gut wrenching to see it like this.

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Most of the playerbase are narcissistic scum and Blizzard decided to support them instead of doing what was best for the game as a whole. Either of these could have tried to balance realms, but neither cared. Benediction broke 20k for alliance, more than what most realms have for both sides (mine is like 3500 total lul).

What Blizzard needs to do at this point is connect the realms so you see players from other realms out in the world and can do quests or dungeons with them.

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Curious. What do you think they could have done to prevent this? i.e. why isn’t this a player created problem?

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Simple.

  1. Removal all layers.
  2. Put queues on the mega realms.
  3. Open up free transfers OFF the mega realms, and never allow transfers TO an out of balance PvP realm.

Simple.

However that doesnt line Blizzards pockets, so they wont.

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Instead of 2-3 popular thriving realms we could have 20 dead ones. Brilliant

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ITT: PvP server players facing the consequences of existing in a “community” of sadistic sociopaths, wherein they require a faction majority to continue getting their rocks off ganking and camping the minority. Balanced PvP servers never last, because having equal odds against the enemy is not the PvP realm player’s purpose for existing. They play to ruin other people’s game experience, and you can only do that if you have overwhelming numbers. You needn’t look further than the wide-spread behavior of spending their time dispelling other people’s world buffs in Classic - not difficult, provides no challenge, just makes another person’s life more difficult.

There’s nothing Blizzard can do to stop the cascading effects of server faction balance shifting. The type of player that is attracted to PvP realms is precisely the type of player that will transfer off if they perceive they are no longer in the majority (even if by a tiny amount). If you lock servers people will literally just re-roll on a different one.

Have fun with your future pseudo-PvE server!

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This sounds (to me at least) like you’re already planning to leave.

Why not actually build community on Whitemane (it has something like 3600+ logging raids, which isn’t bad. Whitemane is where my Alliance are, and I have no intention of transferring.

If it does end up being 100% (or close) Horde though, I do not blame Blizzard. I don’t actually blame people, because that’s not typically what I do.

Sounds like you don’t have a good enough team to stay on Whitemane, from how you’re framing it. Not that I hold you personally accountable for the wellbeing of the team you happen to find yourself on.

Back during Retail TBC, Wrath, Cata, etc. some of the better guilds would sometimes transfer to dead or almost dead servers in order to get server-firsts, or for whatever reason. The guilds were good enough that people would transfer to those servers for them.

My guild just xfered off Whitemane.

Day 1 Whitemane guild.

Hivemind and Yikes will be xfering soon too I hear.

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Half of Whitemane is bots.

Botmane.

Is that a larger or smaller percentage than Bene? (where did you transfer?)

Transfered to Bene but you can clearly see a massive difference.

Go onto Bene and do a /who 11 or /who 10-20.

At all levels people are actually questing and doing dungeons that arent boosts, the amount of Alliance on Bene is NUTS and how active it is.

Im seeing groups for everything.

Yeah, I don’t blame you at all. While I like the ideal of “fighting the good fight,” I’d rather have a large and healthy population of people to play with than tons of people to fight at summoning stones.

But whoever in your guild leadership decided to transfer, so I suppose there are issues filling in your roster that seem to be more serious than just holidays.

You don’t need 20K raiders to be ‘alive’.

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as someone currently on a server of 3k…

3k is dead.

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Nah. It’s not. I don’t think my realm is over 3K since before thanksgiving, and it was fine.

“fine”

Do you actually play or do you raid log and play by yourself?

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Raid Logging, is playing LOL unless you Arena, what else are you doing.

I’m doing dailies, grinding reps, heroics ect, leveling alts…

I spent 2 hours trying to buy a tank and couldn’t find anyone
Guildies can’t find pugs for gruul/mag groups
Arena pool is empty

3k is a dead server unless you don’t actually play

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But…why? LOL

I’m done all that, was done in the first week.

I honestly don’t think Activision employs anyone with the technical expertise to do that.

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