A full Classic server has a third as few Black Lotus relative to players

Thalnos is a Medium server that looks 100% dead. I mean… 25 people in Ironforge at peak hours dead.

Then you consult wowclassicpopulation and find out that in the past 30 days, 94% of logged in characters were Horde. You can still find plenty of life in places like BRM or Light’s Hope, but you’ll get corpse-camped by said life. I can’t find statistics for Sul’thraze for some reason but are you sure it isn’t the case of one faction simply dying off due to paid transfers and relentless P2 corpse camping?

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Ion’s quote about layer sizes is equally outdated.

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All you need to do is create a character on both factions and go to the capitol cities at prime-time. Look at the AH, do a /who and see for yourself.

And yet the biggest servers have at least 12k active players from WClogs alone and you said in the other thread servers aren’t 3-4x bigger than vanilla servers. :thinking:

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You realize that isn’t a concurrent online count, right?

When everyone raids on Tuesdays, it might as well be. And even if it wasn’t true, it’s close enough to make griping about it silly and pointless. Be a contrarian elsewhere.

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How many subs did NA have at the end of 2006? We know the sub count worldwide was 8 million and that was before WoW became very popular in China.

Do you think 3 million is a good estimate? How many servers were there in NA? About 100?

Do the math.

The reason you can’t find the statistics is because of this:

Servers with less than 500 players available are hidden

Here’s the warcraftlogs page:

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/server/rankings/5121/1002#metric=progress&partition=2

Would really appreciate if you’d stop derailing every single thread with long, long outdated statements about layer sizes. Literally the only reason I can think of for you to show up in every single one of these threads is that you’re a lotus farmer.

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I haven’t mentioned layer sizes a single time, I’m going to ignore your blatant attempt to bait me into a pointless argument.

No you’ve made your point in many other threads on why you believe server sizes in Classic are the same as Vanilla (Ion’s outdated quote that a layer is the same size as a Vanilla server). You’ve been in this thread for the last hour now under that same pretense, brushing off Blue posts as being outdated while clinging to your own outdated post.

You must be a Lotus farmer, there is no reason to care otherwise what happens to Lotus spawns.

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You obviously have me mistaken for someone else. Find a single post of me mentioning Ion’s post (whatever that means) about layering.

I’ve been linking TWO outdated posts. The more recent one (by two days) is the one I’m using to DEBUNK the other outdated post. The more recent one says Low pop servers are EQUAL to Full pop Vanilla servers, and anyone with a lick of sense knows that’s not true as of now.

Yeah, look how awesome I am at Lotus farming, I have so much net worth:

https://i.imgur.com/YCysJaS.png

this could be easily solved by opening up new servers with free xfers like they did in the past. I’m kinda surprised they haven’t.

You relize those numbers were acutioned off with the server’s along with original source code… right?

That’s a very interesting interpretation of what you’ve quoted.

This is not stating that the lowest population realms we currently have are equivalent to the highest population realms in 2006. It’s rather stating that a full realm in 2006 would be considered a low population realm by our current metrics.

If we contrast that with ironforge.pro for example, we can see that the highest population realms have more than 10,000 weekly logs for unique raiding characters. Servers with around 2000-3000 weekly logs for unique raiding characters are considered Low by our current metrics, but may have been considered Full in 2006.

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Arcanite Reaper is a Medium realm and there are constantly cries about how dead it is from the people playing there. At prime-time when adding together both factions, there is routinely only 1,000 players online.

I’m going to run a census later tonight at prime-time and show you.

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Show me what?

The roughly 1000 unique player raid logs already exemplify the point that there are roughly 1000 active raiding level 60s on Arcanite Reaper. I’m sorry if I’m missing your point; it doesn’t seem to be clear to me.

My point is that Medium realms aren’t more populated than even the most Full Vanilla realms, like the above posters seem to think. The Blue posts are outdated, that happens, things change.

Blizzard doesn’t keep us updated every single time something changes, people have to think for themselves once in awhile.

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It boggles me that the problem of “Server’s having more people than lotus” should be solved by “more lotus” instead of “moving to a server with less people.”

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I care! This issue must be addressed!