You do just fine on your own.
Thatâs why people like you continue to chime in, right?
You (specifically) provide nothing but talking about my character. You canât argue against any points, so you resort to focusing on me, as a character. Thatâs all you ever do when responding to me. You provide nothing productive in any topic nor discussion, if it doesnât involve resorting to tearing down another individual.
EDIT: We can discuss who I am as a person, some other time. It holds no relevancy to the discussion, at hand, though.
EDIT 2: And, once again, just because some (not all) believe me to be âa mockeryâ doesnât mean that my conclusions are âfalseâ in NEW Servers being âa waste of timeâ, and that if weâre going to do âfreshâ anything, they should be Seasonal Servers with a Paid Service to archive/save any Seasonal Server Progress (if people must). Thatâs the best compromise to avoid having a redundant amount of useless servers, when they turn Perma while still providing some âfreshâ appeal. It may not be EXACTLY the way most (in this thread) want it, but at least thereâs still an option to roll âfreshâ through the means of âfreshâ Seasonal Servers. Thereâs no point in creating more servers to stale out, when they become Perma.
You are still here?
Lol, you have too much free time my friend, i understand that some people like attention but clearly this thread is not for you. some people want what you donât and that is fine.
You can make your own thread and discuss all the differences between fresh, seasonal and everything else you want.
Maybe you could finish leveling your character for tbc, just saying there are better ways to spend your time that to annoy people with the same things over and over,
So please stop disrupting this thread.
But seriously, are you preparing for a debate tournament or something piper?
A formal request should be done in a hand written letter, have some class.
Some people just canât take a compliment.
Seems crazy if they donât at least create one server of each type. They give us boosts to skip Classic. By that same logic they should let us skip the inherent mess that will come about as players transfer their toons over.
There was something like 20 servers added right around TBCâs release. How can Blizz not do one for Classic TBC. The demand is clearly here. The population will warrant it.
As long as people keep replying, Iâm going to respond.
Considering the state of the worldâŚ
Thatâs cute. Doesnât take away from point.
Threads are for anyone willing to post in them and stay on topic, and I am.
And, I understand that. This is how I knew weâre (yes, Iâm lumping members of this thread and myself here) are in the minority here. These threads didnât start popping up until after the BC announcement. Before, it was announced, I was one of the few commenting about a âfreshâ BC release. Just like you guys, I was met with hostility and anger.
Nobody agreed with me. I kept explaining over and over, again how BC and Classic are two different games. Again, nobody listened to me. Itâs not that far fetch to assume that weâre in the minority here. It makes no sense to slap NEW Server after NEW Server to create so many BC Servers by the time BC becomes Perma.
Objectively speaking, what you want is not a solution to your problems. Youâre not going to have some Utopian Server free of Gold Buyers, Botters, âsweaty Try Hardsâ, etc. Itâs not worth having a redundant amount of Servers that splits the community so thin by the time perma comes just to have 4 weeks of âfunâ. That doesnât seem logical, at all.
Again, I already have:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/new-servers-vs-seasonal-servers/890994
I canât make a Belf Mage, yet
Iâm not. People like you not only keep responding to me but are equally repeating the same jargon, over and over again, too. So stop responding to me and repeating yourselves equally as much.
- Again, stop replying to me and repeating yourselves, equally as much.
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No. Why?
Oh please, that wasnât a âcomplimentâ.
Because thereâs no reason to have redundant servers by the time they become Perma.
She would actually get laughed at a debate tournament. She relies too much on using logical fallacies (most prominently, the fallacy of quoting out of context) for her arguments. She would do well with the Republican Party, however.
I am always amazed at people who think that people who want a fresh new server are trying for âserver firstsâ. All of the âfirstâ achievements happened over ten years ago for this content. It is good for a laugh though to see people posting their "First!" achievements for Classic. I am guessing no one told them that this is a re-launch of the original game from back in 2004.
Thanks.
Youâre projecting. You rely very heavily on the fallacy fallacy argument. Because you think Iâm using a fallacy, you think my conclusions are false. Thatâs a fallacy in and of itself, my friend.
Iâm not going to go there lol
I wouldnât say âallâ but âmostâ
IDC if it was achieved ten years ago or recently. Nobody really cares all that much about âfirstsâ, anyway.
Agreed. For anyone bragging about âfirstâ, in general.
That doesnât matter to them. What matters is âbeing firstâ
Youâre welcome
While I agree she is trolling the thread, I find it best to just ignore her and remind myself that at least she is contributing to the post count.
Thanks.
Hey, a bump is a bump.
Iâm not.
Thatâs why you keep making comments about me? Because youâre âignoring meâ? Lol
Iâm doing more than that. Iâm actually contributing to the conversation.
Youâre welcome!
Quality over quantity
Let me say this in a way Blizzard can understand.
We want Fđ¤Rđ¤Eđ¤Sđ¤Hđ¤
That wonât do it. Try this:
Seasonal Servers with a Paid Service to archive/save Seasonal Server Characters
Blizzard, we want fresh TBC servers, cmon already
The question becomes, why not at least ONE for each region, similar to the rpvp concept? Thereâs practically zero argument against it. If itâs truly a DiSaSter, people will just quit. But I think it can reveal an amazing take on TBC to be honest.
The actual point of concern may be what one constitutes as FRESH. I personally donât want to level from 1 to 60 with oldschool xp requirements and I suspect there isnât a substantial amount of people that have the tenacity to do this, let alone have the ability to level alts. I believe this will echo historical issues in the past with raider drought and attuning / gear players.
As someone who took WEEKS off to level in classic and loved it, this is the real âyou think you do but you donâtâ. Youâre going to have a guild clearing the first tier of TBC BEFORE a MAJORITY of players are 60 and itâs going to make a substantial amount of people quit. While you can say that âbut rag was killed in week oneâ in classic its different, because that was the only content, and no classic was so much more important to people than just Molten Core. I promise you, youâre going to have a majority of players in the level 40 range immediately lose interest when a guild finds a way to zoom through. Yes you will keep a very, very, very CORE group of players, but not in a sustainable level like on classic.
On the flip side, I canât bother to waste my time playing on a ânon-freshâ classicTBC server, where a healthy part of the community is walking around in BiS with gear that makes the first tier a bigger joke than it already is, and some items even carrying forward past the first tiers.
The very fact theyâve made a SOCIAL change of paladin seals to me is an endpoint to this discussion, they should be open to at least one server.
TLDR Fresh should be an absolute, I just want to give a caution on how many players youâre going to lose before they even hit 70.
Yup, 100% confirmed trolling.
Seasonal Servers with a Paid Service to archive/save Seasonal Server Characters
Great idea! But this is asking allot from blizzard⌠Why donât we start with baby steps and try something simple like⌠FRESH TBC SERVERS!! LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Iâd be willing to bet money that blizzard would make a fresh server before a seasonal server.
Again Iâm not against seasonal servers⌠but asking for them before tbc comes out is seems ridiculous⌠Thatâs like asking for TBC+ when Classic TBC hasnât even been released
Canât wait for you to break this post into 18 quotes!
Thereâs practically zero argument against it
Think about what happens, when the Servers become Perma
The actual point of concern may be what one constitutes as FRESH
Thereâs two groups: âfreshâ NEW Server People and âfreshâ Seasonal Server People.
Then, those two groups branch off into other sub-groups like OK with âfreshâ NEW Server or Seasonal (doesnât matter), some may want the features to remain. Others want certain features to be turned off. In this threadâs caseâŚthey want the Level 58 Boost feature to be disabled while being a NEW Server type of âfreshâ.
I just want to give a caution on how many players youâre going to lose before they even hit 70
My caution is the amount of dead servers going to be left, when Perma BC hits.
Yup, 100% confirmed trolling.
Oh yeah 'cause having my own opinion constitutes as âtrollingâ despite me agreeing with the rest of your post
Great idea! But this is asking allot from blizzardâŚ
No, itâs not. Theyâre providing us with a Paid Service Copy Feature between Classic and BC. Itâs not that far fetch to assume theyâd do the same, when it applies to Seasonal Servers.
Why donât we start with baby steps and try something simple like⌠FRESH TBC SERVERS!! LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Because thatâs more problematic than my suggestion. Seasonal Servers donât add an influx of dead servers, when Perma Servers hit.
Iâd be willing to bet money that blizzard would make a fresh server before a seasonal server
Iâm hoping they donât, and Iâll continue to address my concerns. Maybe NEW Servers will be âfirstâ than Seasonal Servers, who knows? I much prefer Seasonal Servers, though. As they donât spread the community so thinly, once Perma hits.
Again Iâm not against seasonal servers⌠but asking for them before tbc comes out is seems ridiculous
No, if youâve actually read my reasonings in why Iâm against NEW Servers vs Seasonal Servers, you would understand I have a fear of them destroying the community, now that we have additional servers added into the mix, when Perma hits.
Canât wait for you to break this post into 18 quotes!
NP!
I agree with your points that there is more than just âFRESHâ, this is a far more complicated concept than just simply adding a brand new classic wow server with TBC enabled .
Overall I hope these conversations help the community discuss these differences to better understand what is actually feasible.