Perhaps the sentence is worded strangely, but it is my assumption that those who bought gold and used it to put a lot of progress and investments into their mains will be less likely to abandon it to start over.
(This excludes whales.)
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I began hearing about GDKP type of runs in Wrath (thanks to achievements, and some, not all, players âselling runsâ), and I began my WoW journey in BC and stopped at WoD. I didnât quit because of GDKP. There were quite a bit of changes (from Blizzâs end) that made me quit. Wrath was the first to rub me the wrong way with its forced storylines (via DK starting area), followed by Cata with its destruction of the old world, then Mid-MoPâs PL (Personal Loot) system, WoDâs Character Animations, and the last straw was Legionâs Level Scaling.
GDKP never affected me. One thing I have heard over GDKP is in-game gambling. Iâve heard about this since BC. Itâs allowed, you just canât advertise it (in-game, that is. Blizz cannot control advertisements OUTSIDE of their platforms). I think GDKP is similar to in-game gambling, perhaps make it to where GDKP cannot be advertised (in-game 'cause Blizz has no control over advertisements OUTSIDE of their Game)?
Then again, I havenât seen them advertised in-game (in Classic, that is), anywhere. SR (Soft Reserves) advertisements, I see ALL of the time, though (in Classic)! I have seen some in-game gambling ads, before (in the Standard Game). But, they get reported, and we move on. Doesnât mean that in-game gambling doesnât occur just because you donât see them advertised.
Iâve seen in-game gambling occur quite a lot on my Server (for some reason). Iâve participated here and there, when I feel like I can afford losing whatever gold amount the in-game gambling number requires. Iâve seen way more in-game gambling (in Classic), than I do of GDKP. Iâm sure they exist, but my experience (in Classic) runs into more in-game gambling than anything else. They call it âDeathrollingâ, which Iâm sure is going to continue to exist until the end of time and will only substitute GDKP.
Which, I feel like nobody really cares about âillegal goldâ, and that this is all a ploy to introduce PL because they donât like the practice of GDKP. And, are jealous of those with more Gold than them and are just âbuying their gearâ so âhow dare they!â When âillegal goldâ can be used, for anything like Training, the AH, Mounts, etc. To think that Gold Buying is specifically for GDKP is just ludicrous! Thatâs just me, though 
I think some (not all) confuse something they donât like with âbreaking the rulesâ.
I do agree with you 
Heck, theyâre even still doing it with their â#somechangesâ stance and their latest/recent Poll Survey because some (not all) really think they do but donât.
Iâve interacted with people that admitted (to me, personally) to Botting and/or Gold Buying moreso than seeing anybody openly admit to cheating via in-game. But plenty of interactions OUTSIDE of the game of those who do. Even though, theyâve told me their reasons, I still donât get it. Itâs all the same (to me). Too many lazy people that canât be bothered to play the Game (and, thatâs fine, to be lazy, but I try to help inspire them to stray away from their bad habits).
Iâve had people openly admit this (to me, personally and OUTSIDE of the game) since BC. No, I didnât report it because I couldnât necessarily prove it. I do think the statement âyou think you do, but you donâtâ holds a ring of truth around it because there are some (not all) that really canât handle it, and thatâs OK.
Why would you have to resort to âGold Buyingâ? 
Keep it simple, donât cheat?
Youâre welcome
âFunâ is subjective. Not everybody in the world finds WoW (in general) to be âfunâ. Not everybody finds âRPâ to be âfunâ. Not everybody finds PvE Servers to be âfunâ. Not everybody finds PvP Servers to be âfunâ. Whatâs âfunâ for you is not âfunâ for me and vice versa
I agree with this statement as a âgeneralâ statement and not just you, specifically.
I can see why âfreshâ NEW Servers would appeal to those on PvP Servers. On PvE Servers, finding groups for Low Level Dungeons isnât difficult.
This has more to do with others relying on others to create Raids, for them. Rather than taking charge to run one themselves.
Youâre right about it being your assumption, and I want to agree with you, but I canât. Anyone interested in BC but not Classic and wants to cheat is going to cheat in BC regardless if itâs a âfreshâ NEW Server or not. I would argue that âfreshâ NEW Servers are more enticing to try to compete in âtaking overâ. Thatâs just me, though
AKA Whales. People with excess money to burn. There will always be that wherever we go. This goes for in real life. No reason to not enjoy the good aspects.
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Agreed.
Agreed. Which is why I donât worry about GDKP and enjoy the game for what it is.
Iâm with you 100% Michaeas. I never witnessed a single GDKP on my serverâs trade chat, or my alt on Darkspear. Not once. Blizzard absolutely punished players for gold for money, gold for services and botting. They even banned people for exploits, which a lot of people got away with in âClassicâ Vanilla. It doesnât take a rocket scientist to see the damage that has been done by GDKP. Inflated economies will transfer over. The same mocking GDKP players will be back in Discord, taking advantage of players and the economy at largeâŚhugely. I would argue that there are as many GDKP runs in âClassicâ as guild runs right now. Guilds are âshutting down,â but still show up in GDKPs. People will be going to transfer tens if not over a hundred thousands of gold right into the next server. TBC is almost there already, but TBC will be dead on arrival if corrections arenât made. Bring on fresh servers and ENFORCE some rules. GDKP is bad because it 100% promotes gold buying from bots and sweat shops like Susan Express. It effects guild runs and conventional pugs (very few people want to raid conventionally when they can profit greatly from GDKP). And I donât care what people say, I have both heard of and witnessed 10k items being bought weeky in AQ40 let alone Naxx raid runs. GDKP hurts the economy, and is so rampant and prolific that prices of everything get hurt, etc. GDKP might have existed somewhere out there around TBC and Wrath, but I would hardly call something that wasnât across all servers and not known by most players âalive.â They may have been punishable then, and they were not nearly as in competition with guild and roll pugs. GDKP are a plague that has spread all over the place, the most toxic thing I feel is allowed right now. We need some rules here economically.
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Stormfocker, I had hoped from before Classic that TBC would be authentic. So much for that. We are getting a boost, GDKP and Discord mogul clowns who are transferring up to 100K over to have a huge advantage all over again, and alts who bought their gear in GDKP transferring over with them. It seems impossible to speak out against this Pay to Play environment that is going to obliterate TBC. Leadership / Blizzard could care less. IDK if they even read forums as much as they used to. GDKP had to catch on in Classic. It is full power right now. Now GOLD can be ANYONE AND EVERYONEâS DKP out of the gate. You donât have to be good to enter, AFKing will simply net you less goldâŚin most cases. No one will catch the GDKP moguls as far as progression is concerned, because they will have enough buddies to quickly clear content and fill spots for their GDKP asap after. Back to mocking people for their insane gear purchases. How are we even discussing GDKP making WoW so awful? It should have been putative for all of Classic. What a massive swamp of GDKPs we have now. Please Blizzard⌠Fresh servers and enforce rules around the economy that would damage it.
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As an example of just how rampant and flagrant gold buying/selling has gotten in WoW Classic. Here is the current schedule for my serverâs PuG raids on Discord:
Wednesday
11 pm - BWL - gDKP
11.30 pm AQ40 - gDKP
Thursday
8 pm - MC - MS > OS
11 pm - BWL - gDKP
11 pm BWL - gDKP
11.30 pm - AQ40 - gDKP
Friday
7 pm - MC - SR
7 pm - AQ40 - gDKP
8 pm - BWL - SR
8 pm - BWL - SR
11 pm - AQ40 - gDKP
11.30 pm - BWL - gDKP
Saturday
8 pm - AQ40 - SR
8 pm - AQ40 - gDKP
11.30 pm - AQ40 - gDKP
Sunday
1 pm - MC - SR
8 pm - BWL - SR
Monday
9 pm - Naxx - gDKP
11 pm - AQ40 - gDKP
11 pm AQ40 - gDKP
Tuesday
8 pm - BWL - MS > OS
9 pm - Naxx - gDKP
11 pm - BWL - gDKP
11.15 pm - MC - gDKP
Notice a pattern anywhere? We still have a few MS > OS and soft reserve raids, but the majority of them (16 out of 24) are GDKP. Imagine TBC devolving into this just a couple of weeks out of launch.
This is what I am hoping a new server would help clean up. Well, a new server and Blizzard actually doing something to enforce their ToS and start banning botters, gold buyers/sellers, and others who exploit their servers for personal or monetary gain. I know⌠Itâs a bit of a reach considering their past track record.
Hope springs eternal, eh? 
Thanks.
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I already tried to start a guild In classic. If you think its easy then Iâm sorry to tell you itâs not easy on an advanced server.
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Thatâs depressing 
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I didnât say anything about starting a Guild. I said creating a PuG Raid Group. No Guild required.
Oh you think creating pugs is easy too? I was a MT of a raiding guild. And creating pugs was a nightmare even when servers were peak pop.
Easier than starting up a Guild, yes.
Define ânightmareâ.
âToo much workâ? Yes, leading anything takes work.
work that doesnât pay off is a waste of time
Define âdoesnât pay offâ.
What does that mean, to you? Not getting any bosses down? Only able to kill one boss? All the bosses are dying, but you win nothing? What is it?
My Husband plays the Standard Game of WoW, and his Guild spent Weeks wiping on the same boss, over and over, again. I find that to be a âwaste of timeâ because I could be accomplishing more things in the game than spending Weeks and Hours wiping on the same Mob, over and over, again.
In a sense, I do agree with you, in how I feel regarding âfreshâ NEW Servers. We do this work to provide a âclean slateâ and for what? For a temporary moment of peace before it becomes âgarbageâ, again? Make it make sense!
I say yes to fresh servers with at lease 6 months to year Xfer no boost for 6 months.
I believe blizzard will give out in end, and give what people want they always do.
If the donât oh well Iâll still play for tbc was the best WoW gave.
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And the only Naxx were GDKP. I am sure this ratio is no isolated one, but I for one appreciate it being brought to light. So thanks! Like you said, it is really a matter of Blizzard saying, âOk. We are going to enforce our ToS and at least start issuing warnings.â Gold as a form of raiding⌠That is so bad. Blizzard isnât blind. There are also multi-boxers doing their thing. I guess if Blizzard canât prove they are using third party software⌠There is such a lack of enforcement. The way things are now, going into vanilla âClassic,â I would never have imagined the reign of GDKP, and excuse after excuse in defense of it. JustâŚunless we get a clean slate with enforced rules, TBC is dead on arrival. That is what I am seeing happen. Unfortunate for all the players who wanted an even more authentic experience than vanilla âClassicâ for what most people consider WoWâs greatest expansion.
And sadly has become the norm. I know it is on my server.
I think youâre overanalyzing it maybe? Classic isnât meant to be forever naxx.
No, Iâm not.
Then, what is it âmeant to beâ, then?
To me, IDC if it remains âforever Naxxâ. I thought that was the point. I wasnât looking to rush through the content. I wanted to take my time. Judging by the recent Survey, IDK if thatâs going to be the case, anymore
I think youâre over analyzing in the sense that youâre trying to fix something that canât be fixed.