A Formal Request Thread for Fresh/New TBC Servers

[Innovindil-faerlina]

What a sad person you are my friend.
You already have what you want, let us have what we want too.
if you are worried that a lot of people are going to leave their servers for fresh ones then you are just being selfish.
People should play however they want, not the way you want them to play.

[Balbazak-kromcrush]

I’ll put 500$ up right now to have a tbc fresh server with no boosts

[Claìrè-stormrage]

This is guy is literally using block quotes on not even complete sentences just to try and sound like he has some justification is his arguments. Are you really surprised?

[Tricksy-remulos]

No, it is amusing though. They began as a sort of devil’s advocate but have interjected so much irrelevance and beligerance that they’ve dug a hole they can’t get out of.

[Piper-shadowsong]

@Michaeas-remulos

Since they all seem to be quite adamantly opposed to fresh servers, I would think they would not want to roll on them if they were provided. Seems logical

You know there’s a plethora of different types of trolls, right?

@Michaeas-remulos

You seem quite contrary though, so I will leave you to your opinions.

@Michaeas-remulos

Thanks

@Claìrè-stormrage

Are you even listening to yourself at this point

Are you?

@Claìrè-stormrage

So you concede Alterac Mountains was fresh but now your argument is it wasn’t successful

I didn’t say that. Because IK that’s a subjective matter that cannot be objectively proven.

@Claìrè-stormrage

Based on what

Based off of subjectivity.

@Claìrè-stormrage

Your tinfoil hat is on WAY to tight friend

It’s a fashion statement

@Tricksy-remulos

I don’t understand why you quoted me because nothing you said addressed my quote. You quoted me then talked about something else. Which means you didn’t understand what I said or you misquoted

Still projecting.

@Innovindil-faerlina

What a sad person you are my friend

Oh boy, more ad hominems!

@Innovindil-faerlina

let us have what we want too.

As long as it doesn’t affect me, I’m cool with it. I’ve been very consistant on where I lie in this.

@Innovindil-faerlina

if you are worried that a lot of people are going to leave their servers for fresh ones then you are just being selfish

I’m not. I’ve said many times I prefer to play on Dead Servers rather than see them become connected realms. IK I’m in the minority pool on that one. Again, no I don’t have the “statistical evidence” to back up my assertion in knowing I’m in the minority there. But, I don’t see anybody disagreeing with me on that fact, either. My guess is, you used the same logical and deductive reasoning to reach the same conclusion that I did.

Even if I am selfish, doesn’t invalidate my points. But, it’s a nice projection.

@Innovindil-faerlina

People should play however they want, not the way you want them to play

Again, I’m not asking people to play how I want to play. My only request is to not impact me, and it’s of my opinion that you are.

@Claìrè-stormrage

This is guy is literally using block quotes on not even complete sentences just to try and sound like he has some justification is his arguments Are you really surprised?

Poking fun at my posting style doesn’t invalidate my points.

@Tricksy-remulos

No, it is amusing though. They began as a sort of devil’s advocate but have interjected so much irrelevance and beligerance that they’ve dug a hole they can’t get out of

I’m not playing, anything. I was asked for my opinions, and I gave it. Some (not all) got angry and just began attacking me, non-stop, over and over, again, like that’s somehow an “argument”, it’s not. I will agree, this is all really funny how worked up you lot are over nothing

[Innovindil-faerlina]

You are trolling, so I will just flag your comments.
At least I hope you are trolling.

[Tricksy-remulos]

@Piper-shadowsong

I’m not playing, anything. I was asked for my opinions, and I gave it. Some (not all) got angry and just attacking me, non-stop, over and over, again, like that’s somehow an “argument”, it’s not. I will agree, this is all really funny how worked up you lot are over nothing

I’m not worked up. Projecting much?

I’ll tell you what an argument isn’t. When somebody disputes your opinion, you quote that dispute, ignore it, then repeat yourself.

[Michaeas-remulos]

On the plus side, the trolling keeps bumping the post.

So, some good comes from it

Thanks.

[Piper-shadowsong]

@Innovindil-faerlina

You are trolling, so I will just flag your comments.
At least I hope you are trolling

I’m not but OK.

@Tricksy-remulos

I’m not worked up

Not you, specifically. You’re OK. The rest of the lot is highly on edge lol

@Tricksy-remulos

Projecting much

No.

@Tricksy-remulos

I’ll tell you what an argument isn’t. When somebody disputes your opinion, you quote that dispute, ignore it, then repeat yourself

There was no “disputing”. Just repeating the same jargon, so I just repeated, myself, too. Also, please point out, where it happened

@Michaeas-remulos

On the plus side, the trolling keeps bumping the post

So cute how I’m being deemed a “troll” for having my own mind and thinking for myself without needing to be championed for, from the sidelines. I can stand perfectly fine on my own and let my stance carry itself.

@Michaeas-remulos

So, some good comes from it

Agreed. Lots of good is coming from this

@Michaeas-remulos

Thanks

You’re welcome

[Claìrè-stormrage]

He’s individually arguing with several people in this post based purely on speculation and opinion. If that isn’t trolling and inflammatory, I don’t know what is.

[Balbazak-kromcrush]

Let’s raise money for classic tbc fresh servers no boost

[Horodin-yojamba]

@Piper-shadowsong

This isn’t my argument. You can want all you like, doesn’t mean what we want is going to happen. We can help each other out here. I just need you to stop fighting with me and actually hear the words I’m saying and understand them. I can’t help you, if you don’t let me because you’re so fueled up with anger over nothing.

Your “help” so far has consisted of twisting and cherry picking peoples statements to suit your narrative, putting forward all sorts of false assertions and “facts” about what Blizzard is going to do in the future, and pushing your own seasonal server agenda that no one except you thinks will solve their problems.

You haven’t yet presented a single decent argument against new servers.

[Drooler-grobbulus]

I’m just scrolling past the wall of quote text. Not even worth reading anymore.

[Tricksy-remulos]

Hold on…

[Piper-shadowsong]

@Claìrè-stormrage

He’s individually arguing with several people in this post based purely on speculation and opinion

So are you. This is nothing but all of our opinions and speculations. Is it not an opinion nor speculation that some (not all) think “fresh” NEW Servers are going to be “amazing”? Is it not opinion nor speculation that “fresh” NEW Servers is “the majority”?

Ofc, I’m individually talking with everyone because y’all hold your own individual thoughts and opinions

@Claìrè-stormrage

If that isn’t trolling and inflammatory, I don’t know what is.

Trolling and inflammatory is purposefully being upsetting. I have a Ticket that I haven’t closed out, yet because I admire its message that people having a different opinion is not against the rules nor deemed trolling behavior.

@Horodin-yojamba

Your “help” so far has consisted of twisting and cherry picking peoples statements to suit your narrative, putting forward all sorts of false assertions and “facts” about what Blizzard is going to do in the future, and pushing your own seasonal server agenda that no one except you thinks will solve their problems.

You haven’t yet presented a single decent argument against new servers

I understand that’s how you interpreted it. Just because it’s not satisfactory enough for you, doesn’t mean it’s not an answer. You’ve clearly shown no support for me, therefore I have no desire to throw support at you.

@Drooler-grobbulus

I’m just scrolling past the wall of quote text. Not even worth reading anymore

But worthy enough to comment.

@Tricksy-remulos

You’re suggesting playing on a fresh TBC server is splitting the community

No. I’m stating NEW Servers is splitting the community.

@Tricksy-remulos

What you could argue is by joining a wider community and wanting something else, that person is indirectly dragging others away that already exist in that community. But that’s not the stance you have taken

Ofc not 'cause that’s not my argument.

[Pointytusks-ashkandi]

@Claìrè-stormrage

No, you haven’t. You haven’t shown any empirical data and/or evidence at all. The burden of proof is on you to prove unequivocally it’s not necessary to add fresh servers for TBC

It’s actually the other way around

Youre making the case for it and you’ve shown nothing that is not in the game already by re-rolling.

[Tricksy-remulos]

@Piper-shadowsong

No. I’m stating NEW Servers is splitting the community.

You’ve done it again! You’ve repeated the same thing.

Let’s try this again.

And say that NEW server only contains players that weren’t subscribed to WoW and ONLY subscribed because of that server. Has that server split the community?

[Claìrè-stormrage]

You might as well argue with your chair. He just wants to argue for the sake of arguing. I wouldn’t suffer fools any longer than you need to.

[Piper-shadowsong]

@Tricksy-remulos

You’ve done it again! You’ve repeated the same thing

Because I was correcting your interpretation in what you thought I was trying to say.

@Tricksy-remulos

And say that NEW server only contains players that weren’t subscribed to WoW and ONLY subscribed because of that server. Has that server split the community

It doesn’t matter the type of players playing on said NEW Servers. It couldn’t be any less relevant. New Servers split the community. They create a clog of unused servers, when they turn into perma. Forcing Blizz to implement Connected Realms which is something that I do not want.

Ofc, this is just my opinion and speculation that I’ve concluded from deductive reasoning. You’re more than welcome to counter it with your own opinion and speculation.

@Claìrè-stormrage

He just wants to argue for the sake of arguing

That would be you. You’ve misrepresented my stance over and over again. And, now commanding others who to respond and not respond to. Which is so ironic coming from the same group telling me to “let people play how they want to play”. In the same tune “oh don’t talk her!” Can’t make this up! XD

[Mini-kromcrush]

Is your whole argument against fresh servers just because of it splitting the community?