Nah. I will do whatever I want. Sorry.
Aw ok. That makes sense I suppose.
Many of us on this forum, such as Micheas, have been waiting on a blue post for a truly fresh server. Do not mind Piper. They do nothing but dissect anything anyone says promoting fresh servers. As it is right now, people can transfer 200K+ gold to a new server if they please. Many of us feel that bots, RMTs and mass GDKP have really ruined Classic, and want to begin again as 1s rather then be forced to be constantly beneath players who have abused the economy at large, and many other elements of the game. Still just waiting for Activision to make any kind of blue response to this.
Nope.
Agreed.
I have, as you said, yourself:
No, Iâm not. If I have a legit reason to post in a Thread, I make that clear. You JUST said, I need a substantive reason to continue in threads, and I do. So, is EVERYONE a Troll, now? LOL
Youâve expressed your opinion on this subject matter, numerously. I get it, you believe Iâm a Troll. Thatâs great! It has NOTHING to do with the subject matter, at hand. Youâre just bullying and harassing me, at this point.
Thatâs not what makes a âtrollâ, though. According to your own definition! âDissectingâ everything down is making things clear and concise. If somebody chooses to not talk about that particular subject matter, they can just respond to what they ACTUALLY want to talk about. Donât be upset, that Iâm responding to the things that YOUâRE saying! Donât say extra stuff, then.
And, BTW, Iâve conversed with people I DO agree with, as well, but I digress.
Thatâs not what the definition says, that youâve provided, says.
I use DEFINITIVE words with CLEAR and CONCISE meaning. Keep in mind, the word âfreshâ is used interchangeably between NEW Server people and Seasonal Server people. For the matter of CONTEXT, I will use the phrase NEW Server when participating in this discussion because Iâm smart enough to know youâre not looking for Seasonal Servers.
And, some (not all) Seasonal Server people think you want the same thing as they do, and thatâs not true, either. This why words and context matters! Because I agree that NEW Servers and Seasonal Servers are not the same, do you?
NEW Server or Seasonal Server? Theyâre BOTH âfreshâ, you seeâŚ
No, I have to hold yourâs. What this thread is asking for is THREE different things:
âFreshâ NEW Servers
No Level 58 Boost Feature
And, no Server Transfers
Thatâs THREE different things. You know pretty darn well NEW Servers are coming. But not with the other two things this thread is asking for.
You canât do anything you want, on the Forums. There are rules here.
What this thread is asking for is THREE different things:
âFreshâ NEW Servers
No Level 58 Boost Feature
And no Server Transfers
Thatâs asking A LOT for Blizz, to do. I think itâs best to warn this thread, that youâre NOT going to get ALL three of these, at once.
âFreshâ NEW Server or âFreshâ Seasonal Server?
IK this thread is asking for âfreshâ NEW Servers, ALONG with it NOT having a Level 58 Boost Feature and Server Transfers.
I do not. Notice how I didnât do so with Rimbook. Their post is concise and simple.
Which is understandable.
Which is precisely why Blizz is offering the Level 58 Boost, in the first place, so some (not all) players wonât âfeelâ so âfar behindâ.
Deductive logic and reasoning suggests that NEW Servers will be available. Youâre just going to have to suck up the fact that youâre going to have to suffer through the Level 58 Boost Feature to still be turned on, along with Server Transfers.
You are welcome to join us on the fresh servers. Nobody is âisolatingâ themselves anymore than you are by playing on a different server than me.
More than welcome to join us. There is a huge following of people who DO NOT want to deal with boosts and 200K gold transfers, and that has been made very clear by so many people. I, personally, would give up a T3 geared toon to simply start totally anew on a server without wrongfully advantaged players; players who will have flight and jewelcrafting to full on week one absolutely. GDKP, for instance and in my opinion, has utterly wrecked the âClassicâ economy. World Buffs were bad enough. It is time to move on, and this time get it closer to spot on. I believe this is possible with little to no struggle on Activisionâs part.
IDK about a HUGE following, but I do agree there are quite a bit of folks not happy about the Level 58 Boost Feature. Iâm on the train of not having the 58 Boost Feature, personally.
The Gold Hoarding, is a different animal. One, I (personally) donât care for and not willing to âgive upâ. I have a chance with my Gold, even if I donât have 200kg, in progressing with those who do.
That being said, I wish even the Progression Servers that arenât âfreshâ to NOT have a Level 58 Boost Feature but to have Race Changes and Faction Changes, instead. With the way Blizz is handling the Level 58 Boost Feature complicates having Race Changes and/or Faction Changes.
I would love to get a response from Blizzard about this request. However I do not think it is in their best interests to respond either way at the moment. I do hope they are at least considering the request as they test and configure TBC Classic. But I would think we will not be hearing anything about it until they finalize their plans for the release of TBC Classic.
Our request is honestly a win/win situation. RPGâers get some new TBC Classic servers with no cash shop conveniences on them to play on and the min/max, Arena, and Retail tourist crowd get to keep their servers to play on. The only people I see who could lose from it have already been discussed here, so no point in re-hashing those posts.
Hereâs hoping for a blue response, and for that response to be a positive one!!
Thanks.
Any response either way, I agree. It would be great to get some kind of response here.
Iâve already âlostâ. No âfreshâ BC and CRZâd/Connected Realmed/Virtual Realmed Perma Servers.
What is the point in making things up like this? You know thatâs not true. We all know thatâs not true. SoâŚwhy even say it?
But beyond the fact Blizzard has said no such thing, you pretend like Blizzard hasnât done this in the past. EVERY new server they released in Retail had a time where you couldnât transfer to them. Itâs not only plausible, but pretty much guaranteed if they made new servers now that they wouldnât allow transfers. At least for a certain amount of time.
As far as disabling boostsâŚthatâs true of every Eternal Classic server. So again, thereâs already servers that have this restriction. Itâs something they can clearly very easily do. And even if itâs also a limited time thing, given that boosts are once per account in a matter of months the vast majority of players will have used up their boost anyway. So if they become available down the line, itâs nearly irrelevant by that point.
Because it IS true!
For them to NOT have the Level 58 Boost Feature nor Server Transfers, EVER, at all, is NOT going to happen.
Deductive reasoning and logic can easily point you in the direction in where Blizz is going/heading towards. Itâs NOT hard to figure out they were going to charge for the Character Copy to be in BOTH games. I called that out LONG before Blizz said anything about it. They like money. What better way to make money than to charge for Character Copies?
I was told that just having all of that is âtoo much time and workâ, and Iâm sitting here like, itâs not really, and I was right. Instead of just straight up Copying and Pasting, like I (originally) wanted, they decided to do the charging route, that I did deductively reduced down to using logic and reason.
I donât. IK they have. Thatâs how IK thereâs going to be NEW Servers.
This isnât the same as ânever everâ.
EXACTLY!
I donât recall Servers NEVER using any of Blizzâs features other than Server Transfers (even then, they still become a thing, anyway).
I never said it was âhardâ. Blizz can do anything, they want to do.
I agree!
Doesnât seem like thatâs what you want when the FRESHers call everyone against fresh a troll, conspiracy theorist, etcâŚ
People are allowed to have opinions here, if you donât like one you can either dispute it if you have any way to- or you can go with option B and attack the person instead by implying theyâre a shill/troll.
Youâre the one trying to âguardâ the forums from any opinions that arenât yours, just face it- FRESH isnât popular, most players see the damage it causes or simply donât care, and thereâs the ability to use dead servers for your own fresh if the community badly wants it.
As long as community solutions exist, and they do, Blizz wonât and shouldnât step in.
But, if itâs different from mine, youâre:
and
Iâm still looking for my supposed paycheck, that these NEW Server advocates keep accusing me of getting LOL
I wasnât 100% sure you were trolling, but seeing you cut up posts to take things out of context and misrepresent what people are saying it has become obvious. Youâre better than most, since you hide it somewhat, but like most trolls eventually you show your true colors.
Anyway, itâs still somewhat amazing some people have literally nothing to do but spend hours upon hours a day trolling on this subject. But as been said many times, they donât matter. Only Blizzard does, and theyâd have to be making a concerted effort to ignore the massive demand for fresh servers.
(sigh) I donât, but if you insist, sure. Despite LITERALLY agreeing you, itâs still not âgood enoughâ, for you people!
Isnât the point of the thread asking for NEW Servers? And, I AGREE that itâs happening?
Isnât the point of the thread asking for ZERO Level 58 Boosting, at all, whatsoever? After, you JUST said it doesnât remain that way, forever, and I AGREE with that? Same with Server Transfers.
Just because I post in a way you donât like doesnât mean that Iâm âtrollingâ nor disagree in what you just said.
Like this one person said:
Iâm merely RESPONDING in accordance to what youâre saying!
Thereâs nothing to âhideâ, when Iâm not actually doing the thing youâre accusing me of. The projection rears its ugly head, every single time you lot canât counter any points, then you start throwing ad hominems at me diverting the subject completing away from the ACTUAL topic, at hand.
Talking about you and me, and what we had for breakfast, this morning, has no barring, in the subject matter. IDC if you like me, dislike my posting style, prefer me to type a certain way, etc., NONE of this has ANYTHING to do with the subject matter, at hand.
If you feel (keyword) like Iâve âtaken you out of contextâ, then please feel free to CORRECT me other than just saying that Iâm âtaking your words out of contextâ. I canât know EXACTLY what Iâve âtaken out of contextâ, if you donât point out where it ACTUALLY happened!
So, no, I donât take your word for it, that you were âtaken out of contextâ, when you donât express WHERE the context was âmisconstruedâ.
Again, not trolling. Just standing my ground every single time somebody thinks theyâre being âcleverâ. I have been consistent every single step of the way and havenât strayed off my stance like the many (including those who are equally against âfreshâ) in this thread have.
If youâre a paying subscriber, you matter. Regardless of what we think about each other. Itâs all about the money. Less subscribers means less money for Blizzard. Thatâs the ONLY thing that matters.
Theyâre not ignoring NEW Servers, only Seasonal Servers (for now). Youâll get your NEW Servers, donât worry. Deductive logic and reason dictates so
fresh server experience is one of the best thing i ever see. See the max lvl character âlvl 47 hunterâ its amazing
How many times you have seen it in Blizzard?
Please share with us.
Also, please name the âfreshâ realms of Blizzard so we can talk about their situation and their progress.
Honestly, I donât give a rats hind end if you do or donât change your mind. You say you donât work for activision, and yet here you are using âwe â we constantly as if you have something to lose if there were a loss. A stockholder perhaps? Nah.
You come up with hair brained âsolutionsâ that miss the mark by miles. Insist that fresh supporters should have to jump through multiple hoops to appease you. I imagine you adore âpathfinderâ lol.
No, at this point you are trolling, you arenât offering anything new or reasonable for this request. You counter my question of do you work for them with the same? Thatâs laughable considering my stance. Reading comprehension much?
My advice? Get over yourself.
There you go again, company spokesperson.
/rolleyes
(IN MY OPINION) Theyâre not ignoring NEW Servers, only Seasonal Servers (for now). Youâll get your NEW Servers, donât worry.
See? Thatâs how you do it.