A Formal Request Thread for Fresh/New TBC Servers

Nah. I will do whatever I want. Sorry.

Aw ok. That makes sense I suppose.

Many of us on this forum, such as Micheas, have been waiting on a blue post for a truly fresh server. Do not mind Piper. They do nothing but dissect anything anyone says promoting fresh servers. As it is right now, people can transfer 200K+ gold to a new server if they please. Many of us feel that bots, RMTs and mass GDKP have really ruined Classic, and want to begin again as 1s rather then be forced to be constantly beneath players who have abused the economy at large, and many other elements of the game. Still just waiting for Activision to make any kind of blue response to this.

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Nope.

Agreed.

I have, as you said, yourself:

No, I’m not. If I have a legit reason to post in a Thread, I make that clear. You JUST said, I need a substantive reason to continue in threads, and I do. So, is EVERYONE a Troll, now? LOL

You’ve expressed your opinion on this subject matter, numerously. I get it, you believe I’m a Troll. That’s great! It has NOTHING to do with the subject matter, at hand. You’re just bullying and harassing me, at this point.

That’s not what makes a “troll”, though. According to your own definition! “Dissecting” everything down is making things clear and concise. If somebody chooses to not talk about that particular subject matter, they can just respond to what they ACTUALLY want to talk about. Don’t be upset, that I’m responding to the things that YOU’RE saying! Don’t say extra stuff, then.

And, BTW, I’ve conversed with people I DO agree with, as well, but I digress.

That’s not what the definition says, that you’ve provided, says.

I use DEFINITIVE words with CLEAR and CONCISE meaning. Keep in mind, the word “fresh” is used interchangeably between NEW Server people and Seasonal Server people. For the matter of CONTEXT, I will use the phrase NEW Server when participating in this discussion because I’m smart enough to know you’re not looking for Seasonal Servers.

And, some (not all) Seasonal Server people think you want the same thing as they do, and that’s not true, either. This why words and context matters! Because I agree that NEW Servers and Seasonal Servers are not the same, do you?

NEW Server or Seasonal Server? They’re BOTH “fresh”, you see…

No, I have to hold your’s. What this thread is asking for is THREE different things:
“Fresh” NEW Servers
No Level 58 Boost Feature
And, no Server Transfers

That’s THREE different things. You know pretty darn well NEW Servers are coming. But not with the other two things this thread is asking for.

You can’t do anything you want, on the Forums. There are rules here.

What this thread is asking for is THREE different things:
“Fresh” NEW Servers
No Level 58 Boost Feature
And no Server Transfers

That’s asking A LOT for Blizz, to do. I think it’s best to warn this thread, that you’re NOT going to get ALL three of these, at once.

“Fresh” NEW Server or “Fresh” Seasonal Server?

IK this thread is asking for “fresh” NEW Servers, ALONG with it NOT having a Level 58 Boost Feature and Server Transfers.

I do not. Notice how I didn’t do so with Rimbook. Their post is concise and simple.

Which is understandable.

Which is precisely why Blizz is offering the Level 58 Boost, in the first place, so some (not all) players won’t “feel” so “far behind”.

Deductive logic and reasoning suggests that NEW Servers will be available. You’re just going to have to suck up the fact that you’re going to have to suffer through the Level 58 Boost Feature to still be turned on, along with Server Transfers.

You are welcome to join us on the fresh servers. Nobody is “isolating” themselves anymore than you are by playing on a different server than me.

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More than welcome to join us. :slight_smile: There is a huge following of people who DO NOT want to deal with boosts and 200K gold transfers, and that has been made very clear by so many people. I, personally, would give up a T3 geared toon to simply start totally anew on a server without wrongfully advantaged players; players who will have flight and jewelcrafting to full on week one absolutely. GDKP, for instance and in my opinion, has utterly wrecked the “Classic” economy. World Buffs were bad enough. It is time to move on, and this time get it closer to spot on. I believe this is possible with little to no struggle on Activision’s part.

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IDK about a HUGE following, but I do agree there are quite a bit of folks not happy about the Level 58 Boost Feature. I’m on the train of not having the 58 Boost Feature, personally.

The Gold Hoarding, is a different animal. One, I (personally) don’t care for and not willing to “give up”. I have a chance with my Gold, even if I don’t have 200kg, in progressing with those who do.

That being said, I wish even the Progression Servers that aren’t “fresh” to NOT have a Level 58 Boost Feature but to have Race Changes and Faction Changes, instead. With the way Blizz is handling the Level 58 Boost Feature complicates having Race Changes and/or Faction Changes.

I would love to get a response from Blizzard about this request. However I do not think it is in their best interests to respond either way at the moment. I do hope they are at least considering the request as they test and configure TBC Classic. But I would think we will not be hearing anything about it until they finalize their plans for the release of TBC Classic.

Our request is honestly a win/win situation. RPG’ers get some new TBC Classic servers with no cash shop conveniences on them to play on and the min/max, Arena, and Retail tourist crowd get to keep their servers to play on. The only people I see who could lose from it have already been discussed here, so no point in re-hashing those posts.

Here’s hoping for a blue response, and for that response to be a positive one!! :smiley:

Thanks.

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Any response either way, I agree. It would be great to get some kind of response here.

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I’ve already “lost”. No “fresh” BC and CRZ’d/Connected Realmed/Virtual Realmed Perma Servers.

What is the point in making things up like this? You know that’s not true. We all know that’s not true. So…why even say it?

But beyond the fact Blizzard has said no such thing, you pretend like Blizzard hasn’t done this in the past. EVERY new server they released in Retail had a time where you couldn’t transfer to them. It’s not only plausible, but pretty much guaranteed if they made new servers now that they wouldn’t allow transfers. At least for a certain amount of time.

As far as disabling boosts…that’s true of every Eternal Classic server. So again, there’s already servers that have this restriction. It’s something they can clearly very easily do. And even if it’s also a limited time thing, given that boosts are once per account in a matter of months the vast majority of players will have used up their boost anyway. So if they become available down the line, it’s nearly irrelevant by that point.

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Because it IS true!

For them to NOT have the Level 58 Boost Feature nor Server Transfers, EVER, at all, is NOT going to happen.

Deductive reasoning and logic can easily point you in the direction in where Blizz is going/heading towards. It’s NOT hard to figure out they were going to charge for the Character Copy to be in BOTH games. I called that out LONG before Blizz said anything about it. They like money. What better way to make money than to charge for Character Copies?

I was told that just having all of that is “too much time and work”, and I’m sitting here like, it’s not really, and I was right. Instead of just straight up Copying and Pasting, like I (originally) wanted, they decided to do the charging route, that I did deductively reduced down to using logic and reason.

I don’t. IK they have. That’s how IK there’s going to be NEW Servers.

This isn’t the same as “never ever”.

EXACTLY!

I don’t recall Servers NEVER using any of Blizz’s features other than Server Transfers (even then, they still become a thing, anyway).

I never said it was “hard”. Blizz can do anything, they want to do.

I agree!

Doesn’t seem like that’s what you want when the FRESHers call everyone against fresh a troll, conspiracy theorist, etc…

People are allowed to have opinions here, if you don’t like one you can either dispute it if you have any way to- or you can go with option B and attack the person instead by implying they’re a shill/troll.

You’re the one trying to ‘guard’ the forums from any opinions that aren’t yours, just face it- FRESH isn’t popular, most players see the damage it causes or simply don’t care, and there’s the ability to use dead servers for your own fresh if the community badly wants it.

As long as community solutions exist, and they do, Blizz won’t and shouldn’t step in.

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But, if it’s different from mine, you’re:

and

I’m still looking for my supposed paycheck, that these NEW Server advocates keep accusing me of getting LOL

I wasn’t 100% sure you were trolling, but seeing you cut up posts to take things out of context and misrepresent what people are saying it has become obvious. You’re better than most, since you hide it somewhat, but like most trolls eventually you show your true colors.

Anyway, it’s still somewhat amazing some people have literally nothing to do but spend hours upon hours a day trolling on this subject. But as been said many times, they don’t matter. Only Blizzard does, and they’d have to be making a concerted effort to ignore the massive demand for fresh servers.

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(sigh) I don’t, but if you insist, sure. Despite LITERALLY agreeing you, it’s still not “good enough”, for you people!

Isn’t the point of the thread asking for NEW Servers? And, I AGREE that it’s happening?

Isn’t the point of the thread asking for ZERO Level 58 Boosting, at all, whatsoever? After, you JUST said it doesn’t remain that way, forever, and I AGREE with that? Same with Server Transfers.

Just because I post in a way you don’t like doesn’t mean that I’m “trolling” nor disagree in what you just said.

Like this one person said:

I’m merely RESPONDING in accordance to what you’re saying!

There’s nothing to “hide”, when I’m not actually doing the thing you’re accusing me of. The projection rears its ugly head, every single time you lot can’t counter any points, then you start throwing ad hominems at me diverting the subject completing away from the ACTUAL topic, at hand.

Talking about you and me, and what we had for breakfast, this morning, has no barring, in the subject matter. IDC if you like me, dislike my posting style, prefer me to type a certain way, etc., NONE of this has ANYTHING to do with the subject matter, at hand.

If you feel (keyword) like I’ve “taken you out of context”, then please feel free to CORRECT me other than just saying that I’m “taking your words out of context”. I can’t know EXACTLY what I’ve “taken out of context”, if you don’t point out where it ACTUALLY happened!

So, no, I don’t take your word for it, that you were “taken out of context”, when you don’t express WHERE the context was “misconstrued”.

Again, not trolling. Just standing my ground every single time somebody thinks they’re being “clever”. I have been consistent every single step of the way and haven’t strayed off my stance like the many (including those who are equally against “fresh”) in this thread have.

If you’re a paying subscriber, you matter. Regardless of what we think about each other. It’s all about the money. Less subscribers means less money for Blizzard. That’s the ONLY thing that matters.

They’re not ignoring NEW Servers, only Seasonal Servers (for now). You’ll get your NEW Servers, don’t worry. Deductive logic and reason dictates so :+1:

fresh server experience is one of the best thing i ever see. See the max lvl character “lvl 47 hunter” its amazing

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How many times you have seen it in Blizzard?

Please share with us.

Also, please name the “fresh” realms of Blizzard so we can talk about their situation and their progress.

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Honestly, I don’t give a rats hind end if you do or don’t change your mind. You say you don’t work for activision, and yet here you are using “we “ we constantly as if you have something to lose if there were a loss. A stockholder perhaps? Nah.
You come up with hair brained “solutions” that miss the mark by miles. Insist that fresh supporters should have to jump through multiple hoops to appease you. I imagine you adore “pathfinder” lol.
No, at this point you are trolling, you aren’t offering anything new or reasonable for this request. You counter my question of do you work for them with the same? That’s laughable considering my stance. Reading comprehension much?
My advice? Get over yourself.

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There you go again, company spokesperson.
/rolleyes

(IN MY OPINION) They’re not ignoring NEW Servers, only Seasonal Servers (for now). You’ll get your NEW Servers, don’t worry.

See? That’s how you do it.

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