Nah.
I don’t trust Activision to make good content. Give me content that I already know is good: TBC.
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No, you just balance some things and keep adding content. No major systems introduced.
Think Old School Runescape, which, and I’ll say this again and again, is the best “classic MMORPG” currently in the market.
But yes, I agree that Blizzard would never do it. OSRS succeeded because of an insane amount of communication between the players and the developers. We know which developer is working on what, basically, and we give feedback on EVERYTHING. A minor item balance doesn’t go through without weeks of deliberation and a poll.
Blizzard is entirely top-down. They make the game, we enjoy the game or don’t. Player feedback has almost no effect on their current plans.
Classic + is great in theory. I just don’t see how anyone could think the reality would be anywhere near what you’ve imagined it to be.
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The desire or notion of wanted a classic+ holds to the idea of Blizzard being right.
Classic isnt what people actually wanted.
They either:
- Want their nostalgia museum
- Want a slow repeat of retail for idk why
- Want a new game entirely using “vanilla ideals”
Just goes to show that people didnt actually want something permanent. Just a fad
I mean, we’re going to run out of content within a few weeks. I wouldn’t call retail “a fad” if people wanted more content and stopped playing once they didn’t get it.
And we have MANY criticisms regarding how Classic was implemented in the first place. Whose idea was it to have it at 1.12 forever?
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I would agree with all of this if in place of “people” you had said “some people” or even “many people.” But many others really do like Classic and continue to enjoy playing it. Wanted it and are happy to have it. But yeah, you are right I think in that “some people” really don’t seem to like Classic at all. They only thought they would.
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What “content” would you want them to add?
New raids or dungeons? New battlegrounds? … those take almost as much effort as designing a whole new expansion.
I doubt players would be satisfied if the only “new content” that was added were some extra NPCs and a few more quests out in the world.
I, for one, want TBC. Classic was fun, but TBC is where WoW peaked. All the stupid systems that have grown worse and worse started after TBC (with the exception of one that appeared right at the end of TBC).
It made WoW better, and it was still WoW…
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I’d be fine with classic+, it’s what I would prefer. But I would also play TBC. I would also do fresh classic (not now, maybe 1-2 cycles or seasons from now).
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The lifeblood of any MMO is fresh infusions of new content. That’s what keeps the game fresh. It’s what kept many retail players playing for 10 years or more.
Without new content, eventually the player exhausts the available content. It’s like winning in a single-player game. Eventually you just run out of stuff to do and get bored.
I agree that Classic absolutely NEEDs some type of new content. Without it the community will shrivel up as most players get bored and move on to other things.
The real question is what new content should be added:
- Should be it Classic+? Which would probably mean new raids and dungeons, while keeping everything else largely the same. or
- Should it be TBC?
Personally, I think it will be TBC for a number of reasons:
- Development time and cost -
- TBC is finished content. It just needs to be tweaked to work with Classic. Development time and cost should be minimal.
- In contrast, making Classic+ would likely require creating all new dungeons, raids and battlegrounds. The development time and cost would be much more like that for creating a fresh expansion. If Blizzard goes this route expect a multi-year delay.
- Even just taking TBC dungeons and raids and converting them for use with 1.12 characters would take more time than just porting over TBC en mass. TBC dungeons and raids were designed with level 70 and TBC abilities in mind. More balance tuning and adjustment would be needed to make them compatible with level 60 characters than would be the case for TBC characters.
- Amount of content -
- TBC contains far more content than is proposed for Classic+. It contains more than just a few new dungeons, battlegrounds or raids.
- Basically, players would get more bang for the buck than with Classic+. They would get more content, so would hopefully lose attention less quickly.
- Quality of content -
- TBC was an excellent expansion that in many ways greatly improved on the gameplay of Vanilla WoW. Many broken specs and talents were fixed or improved. It would be a shame for players not to experience those fixes.
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They could start with what was supposed to be there in the first place. Three things, in particular, were being developed when Blizzard decided to go the TBC route and got scrapped completely in favor of it:
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The Hyjal zone. It even had a raid entrance there, although obviously leading nowhere.
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New Azshara quests/development and a battleground with Azshara scenery
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An epic-sized Karazhan raid. This was supposed to be the next tier of raiding, although I concede that going by the “Vanilla Karazhan” maps it was scrapped very early in the development process.
But how long would that content actually keep players entertained?
I think after 6 months you’d have played out such content and be again asking for new other content?
Better to implement TBC, which has enough content to keep players entertained for 2 years.
TBC was made by the same team that made classic. The Developers made that game and played that game.
I am not opposed to them making a classic+ option as long as we still have eternal classic servers and TBC servers
BUT…
Here is the question…
Does anyone trust the current Blizzard team to deliver a true classic+… To be quite honest Its a new team of devs for the most part its not same company.
Besides TBC was the best version of wow. TBC it was the polished version and true successor of Vanilla.
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I want to live in Theory. Everything works there!
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Looks like blizz doesn’t care about your final plea, survey completely ignored classic+ gg
:shrug: A plea doesn’t come with high hopes. I am also interested in TBC. Actually, TBC is a step toward reentering the vast, savage, and beautiful northern realm. That would be my final stop in this expac series rerelease. However, I came for the original content prior to new retail bought expansions. This plea was to allow it to continue a careful progression in the spirit of a small indie company making their mark in the legendary tales from gaming history.
It wold be like admitting that their direction with Retail failed which they will never do.
It would take additional manpower on an unknown when Blizzard already reduced it’s staff.
TBC would be easier to implement than Classic was.
Classic worked because it required minimal effort and to protect their intellectual property. No real benefit for the company to do what you saying just because you and others ‘think’ it would be successful.
Like someone else has said and you or anyone has ever fully addressed, players have a million and one versions of what THEY want in Classic +. You are assuming that whatever Blizzard decides to do would be acceptable by all those players when the forums and the constant complaints and posts prove otherwise.
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The above explains why it most likely not happen
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It has worked in practice before, with other games and companies.
Who would be in charge of the design decisions for Classic+?
Classic+ is a whole can of worms…