A Critical Look at Dawntrail's Shortcomings - WORSE than Shadowlands

No,

I am well within my right to put this here as I’m making a direct comparison to World of Warcraft which does not strictly violate forum conduct.

If you don’t like what I have to say, ignore and report. Have a wonderful day.

Why would we care about FF14 trash heap here on wow?

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Wut? No they aren’t lol. This is prime example that you have never played the game considering at the end of ARR you and the Scions are literally on the run trying to save yourselves from death.

This was literally a narrative arc in ARR/Heavensward. The Scions ended up being scattered and had to take refuge in another kingdom.

Yet your OP doesn’t even mention WoW.

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FFXIV is one of the best MMOs on the market and a direct competitor of WoW. Dawntrail also released right around the corner of TWW which releases shortly.

The comparison is due to the fact that FFXIV’s performance has an indirect impact on WoW as it draws from it heavily, albeit in very inferior ways.

For all intents and purposes, FFXIV is objectively worse than WoW in most ways not limited to:

  • Class design
  • World narrative
  • PvP
  • Creative liberties in regard to system designs
  • Landscape design and raid design (not to be confused with ENCOUNTER design)
  • Dungeon design

It’s important to have these conversations because the health of FFXIV affects the market as a whole due to being the second largest juggernaut by market share.

This thread is dumb so enjoy a picture of me and my corn:

https://i.imgur.com/B9My1pM.jpg

Catgirl.

Opinion discarded.

(I also play catgirl.)

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sticks cupcakes on them

That’s kind of a silly issue with the story though. Whom exactly is a threat to someone capable of fighting and downing ultima weapon at that point in the story?

This is deliberately disingenuous - I mentioned WoW in the first line of my post.

Technically you couldn’t, it took direct intervention from Hydaelyn to down it.

Tell me you dont know what your talking about with out telling me you dont know what you are talking about.

FF14 is not even on the same level as WoW.

This is Asher by the way. I am settling on my main for TWW.

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This is unclear.

Only to protect you from a specific all out attack. It also ignores all the other feats you’ve accomplished to that point that no one else could.

For FF14’s story to work, you do kind of have to ignore that a whole lot of problems could be solved pretty easily by the WoL just cracking some skulls, until Zenos comes along and shows you whats up.

No, she is the one tearing the primals out of Ultima.

Wow, congratulations, you made an off-handed remark about expansion quality and then proceeded to ignore said expansion quality in favor of a rant about FFXIV.

There’s no comparison being made here. You’re just griping about Dawntrail and are attempting to guise it as a comparative critique.

Actual :clown_face:

I am saying you don’t know what you are talking about and you are just unconsciously proving it with what you are saying.

Not really. FF XIV targets a different subset of gamers than WoW. There may be some overlap but they don’t share the same market demographic.

This isn’t the Final Fantasy XIV forums; say goodbye to your thread.

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How strange you went for full irrelevancy.

I have no interest in FFXIV, or any other version of that game. I find it curious that anyone would be so obsessed with both SLs and FFXIV that they would post the deep dive screed you started the thread with. It’s almost as though you’re an employee of a PR subcontractor who thinks copying and pasting some ChatGPT analysis will make TWW look better.