Man you are one angry individual aren’t you? Lol.
to be honest 242 off the rip was a bit excessive. imagine all the people that actually struggled to get to rival only to see that was all for nothing.
How about if I hit 1.6 or 1.8 or 2.1, I can skip the upgrades before? This way I can upgrade to Rival and not deal with combatant 1&2, challenger 1&2. Just skip upgrade costs and go right to the bracket I’m in. If I can make it there, that should be my reward.
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I like that. Upgrading per step is STUPID expensive in honor.
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I posted this in the other thread: at least they added more upgrade points at the lower end: 1000 and 1200. So it’s really like 242 (1200) vs 259 (2100+) which is 17 ilvl. Also, the ilvl difference b/w 1400 to 1600 and 1600 to 1800 was squished to be only 3 ilvl each instead of 6-7 ilvl on live. So, this would be inline with trying to make lower level pvp gear better imo.
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Unless the honor costs are significantly less, this is still going to suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
Honor gear should max at like 245-250 then conquest should be 259 flat BiS.
No it’s not, this is conquest gear, it should be BiS. Honor gear should be like 242 for the amount of honor you have to grind.
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This 1000%
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Oh well, so much for shrinking that ilvl gap…
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Participation by people who didn’t want to be there but felt pressured
Kinda like me in bfa running my 105th kings rest key trying to get geared for pvp
It’s not a good feeling and I don’t think it’s good for the game
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Edit: looks like the comment I replied to was deleted.
It does though?
| 1400 | Rank 4 Challenger I | 233 | 246 |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1600 | Rank 5 Challenger II | 236 | 249 |
| 1800 | Rank 6 Rival I | 239 | 252 |
That’s 3 ilvl between 1400/1600 and 1600/1800, which is condensed compared to live.
i’m convinced 90% of you can’t read elementary school level tables. changes are literally only positive
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There is a difference between positive and what we want. Yea, they are moving in the right direction, but honor gear is still useless and conquest gear has rating gating making it unobtainable on alts and stuff. The game is balanced around max level gear, but then they limit who actually gets to use it and lets them beat up those that can’t.
Positive or not, the system still needs attention…
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i didn’t claim the changes are perfect. i said they are positive. even if it is 1% better it’s still positive.
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Do you celebrate a ten cent raise? Or do you have higher expectations when your pay is addressed? Moving in the right direction doesn’t deserve to be counted as positive until it starts fixing the issues.
Sorry but I am not happy with the current system, nor am I happy with the current suggested changes, until honor gear is viable and rating gating is gone or made very minimal then there is no grounds for celebrating these “positive” changes.
Wow can be a great game and that’s the expectations I have for it. If they would listen to us, fix these issues, we would all be much happier and I wouldn’t have to waste hours of my life on the forums trying to raise my hand so we don’t get stuck with another terrible system…
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Honor gear is viable. Why do you feel like it isn’t?
I like rating gating, it actually provides meaningful rewards for the best players. I feel like the best players should be rewarded for their skill, effort, etc.
So it’s a fix that doesn’t fix anything and prevents future fixes by giving Blizzard an excuse to say they did something. Sounds only negative to me.
229 gear vs 259 gear is viable?
Rating gating gives better players brass knuckles against lower players. Either you carry so you like the gear advantage, or you don’t PvP so you don’t know what it’s like to try to overcome a 29 ilvl deficit. Or you are just a troll like everyone says and I should not take anything you say seriously. I try to give people the benefit of a doubt that they can converse but I will need to start seeing valid arguments for you points.
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Where does someone in honor gear go up against someone in 2400 gear?
Random bgs? Where they have to farm all the honor they need to upgrade the conquest gear? I fought Trill and Chanimal at 1500 bracket in arenas. You encounter them all over the place…
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