9.1.5 getting closer, Warlocks keep getting ignored

Glad I have my frames capped at 60 by default due to my monitor’s refresh rate. Every time I boot up that game it sounds like my tower is about to blast off to the moon.

Perhaps you should refrain from saying things you know nothing about until you do some research. That way people dont think you’re just a troll.

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Perhaps you should work on practicing what you preach instead of jumping to a conclusion and responding to some random comment. That way this doesn’t happen.

Literally me asking about the bugs and that’s from my first comment in here.

It’s difficult to be more of a troll than this…

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Hate to break it to you but I’m not trolling.

You do realize that you being wrong doesn’t make me a troll.

What did I miss that I can disprove or… something…

Someone TLDR this whole thread for me.

Basically that warlocks are being completely ignored prior to 9.1.5 unless they just havent announced changes for the class yet. Had some random rogue comment about how the class is fine but clearly is just a troll. That pretty much sums it up lol

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Class is fine…in pvp.

Not great… but its fine.

People are also clouded by being trash and that’s 100% ok because everyone is terrible at something before they are decent but the issue comes when they are terrible and opinionated that it cannot be them.

Its not s1 weakness… its not S-tier Strength but a lot of peoples complaints are clouded by them being trash players.

Seem to be doing fine pve… and in a much better pvp state… its not OP but its decently strong in its respective comps but listening to the community at larges perception is always laughable… these are the folks to try and tank cooldowns and wonder why they die.

Do yourself a favor anytime you see a post like this or a string of complaints… Look at the players achievement past… look at their current rating/xp and judge… are they washed up or were they never decent? Is it a actual issue or them taking a “Ok” class with no player skill behind it and trying to make excuses.

Nah bruh.

plsbuffdestro :^)

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Listen here you little dragonslaying punk…

Lol hope things have been well manni

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You too chief.

Keep making us PvE punks look like monkeys in PvP, just not me because I need more marks of honor for xmog and I like my welfare 1800 set. :sunglasses:

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Demonology is still a buggy mess, and even worse the devs show no effort into tuning the spec.

The spec being based around externals to maintain relevant use idiotic.

Should demo be able to play this way, absolutely. But it shouldn’t be the only way.

NP, SS, and all of the lesser talents need brought up in line with Decon, this recent NP CD change shows how that will never reliably happen due to either the developers ignorance or malice towards the spec.

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Again not a troll and not a random rogue.

I was very active in 9.0.5 on my warlock on this forum.

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This 100%.

Also epic I can’t take you seriously without your pink hat on.

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I see welp I didnt know. Still think you came off a little rude but w/e

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I have the greatest respect for veteran players that are able to dedicate a lot of time to wow and get such impressive achievements.
That being said, the elitist point of view that players complaining are “trash”, “learn to play”, “you don’t have rating, therefore your comments are trash”, etc.
This “elitist” point of view is what IS trash, egotistical and incredibly entitled. To think that the rest of the player base must be at their level or they just can’t have an opinion is so obtuse that they can’t possibly see the reality.
There is absolutely NO DOUBT that Shadowlands PVP is a wreck. That Warlocks in particular are incredibly unrepresented either in arenas or RBGs.
I quote Skillcaped in this video @12:06
https://youtu.be/YlNEIDVeaWs
Affliction single target is laughable and I can quote both Kalamazi and Chanimal for pvp and pve.
Destruction is much better in PVP than PVE right now but still the chaos bolt nerf in PVP talent left us with a net loss in dmg when it should have been just an equivalent change, remove of the pvp talent for a chaos bolt buff of the same dmg.
Demonology is much better but still have very important bugs that can kill your rotation.

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

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Ironic considering you called me a troll because I asked “what bugs” in reference to the demo bugs statement.

I then even quoted my exact comment where all it says is “what bugs” and you still call me a troll because of my avatar.

I love how you’re undergeared and highest achievement is 1550 is telling epic he is blind because of his statements.

Please wait while I refill my popcorn.

I kinda see it. Epic is not being called blind in regards to gameplay or mechanics. It’s an attitude that people who are able or willing to invest tons of time into this game. They take for granted a reality that most don’t have, causing people to talk past one another.

A simple version is usually advice that boils down to “just put a lot of time into X and it all changes”. The other poster knows this and is complaining that a spec demands that much more investment to achieve similar results to another one.

Or: a post could say that demo lock is bad in PVP. Epic walks in and says this isn’t true because he’s achieved great results. But both are correct and talking about different things. The casual poster is talking about demo’s probable/likely success in PVP. Epic is talking about demo’s potential/possible success.

Probability and possibility are as different as conversations about skill floors and ceilings.

An analogy would be me saying that running ten miles is easy. To me, it is, because I’m blessed with no injuries or health issues and can run a lot. To a person just starting or dealing with an impairment, 10 miles might be a laudable end goal. We are both right that running 10 miles is easy and hard. It just depends.

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You can’t really compare the two though.

Classes should be balanced around the top players.

Epic performs well because he has spent the time to learn how to play the class.

When someone like the OP says locks are bad when they haven’t even out the time in to gear their toon let alone learn how to play it.

It’s like saying someone who clears LFR should give input on class balancing.