I imagine quite a few of us are hopeless optimists who like to delude ourselves into thinking WoW still has a story with actual characters and not two-dimensional carboard cutouts that act as stage dressing for raiders and PvP’ers.
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God I miss when the characters were well written
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The story is bad but I don’t want to talk about that.
I like that there’s a buncha casual stuff I can do this patch. A lot of battle pets and mounts I actually want for me to collect.
I’m disappointed the new raid sets are just the legendary gear.
I think it’s nice we now have a way to collect them for transmog but disappointed we didn’t get new unique gear.
I like that flying is easier to acquire and now I’m more motivated to do WQ and collect anima for my sanctum. Going to push a few more alts to 60 and probably do more callings since those are nice gold payouts because I’m always broke and immediately spend all my gold on transmogs and battle pets lol.
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i spent way too much time thinking about sylvanas motivations (paranoid, detached) and not enough time turning korthia into a blender
As much as I would love to see Genn be more aggressive, I don’t think it would happen?
His major grievance was with the Forsaken and Sylvanas, I don’t thin khe particularly cares about the rest of the Horde given how history went down. He literally “Bye Falicia’d” the rest of the Alliance by walling his nation away from them when the Orcs were invading and running amok.
And since Stromgarde has been OOCly gutted to be some vassal state to Stormwind, there isn’t a lot of aggression left among the human kings.
I feel, as someone who used to love the factions, I’m more and more leaning towards changing my stance on opening up the factions and focusing on other threats.
We could go into space, go to the other side of Azeroth, journey to the center of Azeroth, explore other dimensions in the Shadowlands, whatever.
Maybe make the factions or cities more like covenants, but different: Make them cosmetically different, but mechanically identical.
Make classes and races start all over the world and have an overarching plot that leads the factions together for good, while still giving people a reptuation to build with their choice of city… But it wouldn’t split anyone off from each other.
BGs wouldn’t have to change, they could be war exercises to train in controlled environments or be contests of skill. Or even make them lorewise be Goblin wrestling, it looks real, but everyone knows it’s fake.
(Void Elves would still lorewise be barred from Silvermoon since their presence there is an actual threat to the stability of magic there)
Well, in, ‘Shadow’s Rising,’ Genn wanted to commit to a full on invasion of Zandalar after finding SI:7 agents killed by arrows shot by dark rangers, washed up on shore; agents whom had been on Zandalar. He argued it was proof that the Zandalari and the Horde were harboring Sylvanas.
Turalyon was the one who argued against starting a full on war with a new invasion, and instead conducting a more thorough investigation beforehand.
So, Genn is still very much so a Warhawk. He doesn’t believe the Horde has or can change. That said, I don’t disagree that its time for this story to move past that. Honestly, the faction conflict should’ve ended after Legion.
Not really? Their presence is a threat to the Sunwell when they’re in proximity to it. Alleria had to be within spitting distance before something happened. That’s just going back to how convoluted and terrible the idea of a Void Elf race was to begin with; banishing them from Quel’Thalas was completely unnecessary. Forbidding them from setting foot on Quel’Danas would’ve been more than enough.
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Tyranny of the Light has been a underlying narrative since the Vanilla days, and it got a lot “louder” in Legion.
Plus there’s the fact we really have no idea what’s going on in Azeroth right now. And we’re all just kind of primed to coming back from the Shadowlands canonically into an absolute warzone.
I give it a 40% chance Stormwind will be on fire.
God, those well-written characters.
I miss all three of them.
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True, but Turalyon isn’t willingly a zealot. He even outright told Anduin that they can be guided by the Light but should never allow it to control them. I imagine his experience with Xe’ra taught him a lot.
Only 40%? I’m willing to go as high as 60%.
I fully expect Turalyon will be a raid boss, by the way. I just don’t see him as a willing vassal in such a situation. AU Xe’ra would likely just Lightbind him. He’ll probably be a casualty before we even get back, his soul irrevocably, ‘cleansed,’ by the Light into a pure blank slate, unknowing, unfeeling, unthinking, an obedient puppet of the Prime Naaru.
At this point it’s a toss up between whether Turalyon will be a Raid Boss or the actual King of Stormwind going forward.
I’m still not 100% sure if Anduin’s making it back from this expansion. I could see him and Bolvar taking the Jailer and Arbiter’s places.
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He led the fight in Stromgarde, didn’t he?
Also sitting there wondering what other Alliance lands can be reclaimed
“Alliance aggression in the next expansion” feels like a nonsense statement at this point. Like something a lunatic in an old timey sanitarium mumbles to himself as he hugs his knees and rocks back and forth.
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Nah. It’s an inevitability at this point. Mostly because we’ve burned through the Horde leadership roster at an aggressive attrition rate.
Also I don’t see Baine being an effective expansion Big Bad. Instead of Raids, he just sends us increasingly strongly worded letters of disapproval.
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One of three Warfront commanders.
Gee, couldn’t be any Night Elf lands, could it? Or, heck, any of the numerous Alliance territories not contested by the Horde? Gilneas? Alterac? Nethergarde? Eastern Plaguelands? Theramore? Grim Batol?
Oh Baine got possessed by an evil ghost.
Oh no, Baine got stabbed by a mawguard and put Magatha Grimtotem in charge of the council.
Oh no, Baine suddenly has always hated the Alliance a lot now and this is because he had a weak center.
Oh no, Baine had to go on vacation and put this new character named Mass Murrdurrhur in charge of the council.
Oh no, all the council died off panel and now the NEW council is leading the Horde…to WAR!
The sky’s the limit, really.
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Seriously. This is a game that literally recycled an entire expansion, beat for beat. Blizzard is literally never going to run out of antagonists, even if they just have to just keep re-using the same ones.
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Go for it all,
then Horde gets to stand against a zealous alliance
A friend of mine recently tried to like justify that the incredibly dumb lead up to WoD ala war crime trial stuff only happened because of the August Celestials.
And I had to just calmly say the August Celestials are not real and that Blizzard is just bad at writing.
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incredible everything I’ve heard about 9.1 is exponentially worse than I imagined
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I told someone today that it’s reached the point where the whole shebang is just an equal degree of baffling whether or not you’re actually following it.
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