I think for most people it really doesn’t matter. Ultra competitive people that made the game their job have to buy it. But for the rest of us it kind of whatever. I buy a game and I may or may not play day one, two, or three. A few days extra in wow doesn’t mean people can’t catch up if they start a week later. There is a ceiling at end game.
I doubt that situation will repeat. There may be some other glitch-like factor that occurs, but if we can get some honest beta testers that try to break and report things like that, hopefully it won’t happen in such an egregious way.
Hunt for exploits and report them!!! All the while gaining a bit of extra understanding about what will be the best way to progress whatever happens to be “the thing”.
Hard agree. It’s so cringe. Pay to win has finally been blatantly put in the open. Blizzard cares more about money than enjoyment of their products and aren’t hiding it anymore.
I liked them better when they pretended to all about the players. Now they try to squeeze every little cent out of you.
Yes it’s optional, but the fact that they have even done this in the first place is the true definition of cringe and greed.
Because his point is early access.
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The biggest thing that sucks is the 3 days early access. Makes no sense. Ruins the race to cap. Thankfully there’s a couple week grace period before the season starts. If they could just remove the early access then whatever. But now you’re paying for beta and to play it 3 days early. I don’t know, just seems like worse practice than what it was.
All you can do is vote with your wallet. Just don’t pay it.
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Were you planning on being a server first 80 or something??
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It’s not just the server first stuff. It’s the economy and it’s everyone going to this new area together. As adventurers. Now it’s 3 day early people and then another wave. Should be as one. But who cares when you can just charge more and create FOMO and get money.
And this is why I care more about the guaranteed beta access than I do about three days’ head start: I can do what I do every time I get into a beta, and help them swat the bugs.
Or, rather: he doesn’t care about anything but except access, and thus has deemed everything else objectively “irrelevant.” Calling that a “point” is a bit generous.
You can keep willfully ignoring the point but it doesn’t mean it hasn’t been made.
If they made the 90$ edition contain double the sweet goodies that it already does and took out early access literally no one would be upset.
I mean that’s what everyone has said here, right? They’re paying 90$ because they like the mogs or the hearthstone or the services or the beta access or because they rationalize that’s it’s cheaper than it looks because of the game time.
I’m one of those people. I’ve paid for race changes and mogs and beta and hearthstones and I buy game time in bulk for mounts. I’ve bought epic editions in the past. Guilty.
The problem is the early access.
One of the best parts of Warcraft for my guild is launch night. The chaos. The magic. The staying up late with friends and doing quests together for the first time or the friendly race to see who wins the gold pot for the race to max level.
When you put early access on the table and lock it at a $90 price tier, you are splitting guilds. You are going to have people who buy it and people who can’t. People who are left out for no other reason than they’re poor.
The idea that “true friends who want to play with each other will just wait for their friends” is a bunch of crock and everyone knows it. Most people won’t wait and waiting will just make the poors feel guilty that people waited in the first place because the whole process draws attention to who can afford it and who can’t.
My guild can’t be the only guild that does launch night parties. It’s going to make things awkward.
Early Access in WoW has basically no upsides for the community, and the probability that it will result in financial advantage for crafters and gatherers or people who find a knowledge point farm is pretty likely.
This isn’t good for the community, it’s only good for revenue.
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Let’s grow up a little bit here it’s a VIDEO GAME it’s not 3 day early access to life saving equipment. Go out there make 40 dollars, literally save 10 bucks a month and in 4 months it’s yours……not really all that tough or reason to be a super Karen.
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It’s not my finances that are the problem. I can afford it without a care. If it didn’t have early access I’m sure I would’ve bought it already.
It’s that early access creates a problem. It still splits an expansion’s release into who can pay more to see it and who can’t, instead of a time when the entire guild should be enjoying playing together.
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When anyone can pay for it and go early it’s a personal choice and in the case of a guild if your guild is that close and actually wants to game together all of them will either pay for early access and go together or wait and not, this isn’t rocket science.
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No, I am not “willfully ignoring” your repeated claim that the $90 is for early access, and that the other perks like a guaranteed beta key and level boosts are “irrelevant.” (Try to glorify it as a “point” until the heat death of the universe if you so choose; that’ll never qualify it as such.)
I am rejecting it.
If you only care about the early access? That’s on you. And it does not objectively invalidate all of the other perks. Deal with it.
Bingo. If the guild cares about early access, but too many guildies can’t spare the $90: everyone refrains from taking advantage of early access. Simple as that.
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Save like a nickel a day or something and you will be able to afford the extra money to buy early access. Or, if money is that tight for you, take out a personal loan.
Give me a reason other than “Someone feels entitled and feels this takes away their entitlement” that explains why you think it negatively affects anyone?
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That’s pretty much the size of it, really. Their argument has been either “unfair advantage” or the nebulous “launch day magic.” And they keep creatively interpreting everyone’s apathy as incomprehension.
Let’s have every company in the world add fees to play any game when it launches. Oh and add that fee to concerts and movies and restaurants. You can’t eat today unless you pay more. I swear the world is full of idiots.
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arguments derived from ‘’‘its just 3 days’’ proves that you all have what you deserve
It may even seem silly, until one day they offer ‘‘pay 20 bucks to access the new dungeon of the new patch three days early!’’
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Personally I dont really care about early access (though do feel it’ s a little cringe but the way the industry is going) and if anything it’s actually put me off buying the epic expac as I dont want to support wow doing this.
The main reason I dislike it is because this reason:
I don’t really know of any other game where people actually take time off to play. It’s a bit of a kick in the teeth to the community that made this game as popular as it did.
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