LOL. No. Before Legion, your character used to become more powerful over time. Now, your character is exactly the same character you had at the end of WoD. No new talents or abilities and no character progression. Even leveling makes no difference since content and ilevel is scaled LOL.
All your power comes from gear now. And at the end of BfA you will still have essentially the same toon you had at the end of WoD.
So you are saying that Wrath had more players than Cata. that Cata had more than MoP. That MoP had more than WoD⌠etcâŚ
I do sense a pattern⌠Its almost like the majority of the original playerbase is getting older and that younger players are playing other things than mmosâŚ
Itâs why when they eventually release wrath or mop legacy it will be about the same as classic. Huge start, half the players gone in 6 months.
I get it. Just stop responding to me. The progression has shifted from leveling to max level. Adding a talent tree that means nothing doesnât add progression.
If you are actually arguing that gear, essences or the artifact didnât make you more powerful you didnât and donât play. Which is true, because you didnât. <3
No.
Full time job is trying to rank in classic.
Most azerite armour canât be farmed. And by most, I mean any with a reasonable ilvl.
Essence farm suck, but it has an end. Also most require likeâŚ30 mins content daily at best.
Killing Thrall in visions takes like 5-10 mins. Anything else is optional until higher levels, even then itâs only one extra boss, 2 at max.
Lol! You donât farm correct corruption, nor do you even need it. Nothing is guaranteed, putting that much effort in for no guarantee is a waste amd 99% of people will just not do it.
Stats are the same as any other version of WoW? Nothing different here.
You go for your better stats just like you go for hit and crit in classic. Or hit and expertise plus your best stats in WotLK.
Secondary stats are in the easiest state they have ever been. So easy that itâs boring even.
Wotlk had more than TBC. Pretty sure mop had more than cata, cata was one of the worst received expansions out there. Itâs content drought was also almost as big as mops.
You really canât look at wod in any way thanks to the devs straight up admitting they abandoned the game.
I wonder why? Maybe this constant transition towards more and more chores. Puzzling 
So probably still better than the new retail expansions will do 
The drop off started in wrath. Coincidentally around when LoL came out. But sure, pretend that wrath will bring back 14 million.
Its not like every other game doesnt get big, then drop off for the next new thingâŚ
I didnât spend 4+ hours a day just to get the dailies done, due to slow spawns and 2 zones I had to do everything in to keep up.
getting gear through pvp in wrath was doing bgs and wintergraps for hours again and again and again lol
Progress there was steady and fun though /shrug
So you are saying that repetitive grind was fun? It was funner than now cause it was pvp?
A reasonable PvP grind will always be more fun to me than any PvE grind.
The issue with the current PvP grind is that itâs pretty much impossible to catch up to those that do M+s.
We also had a goal called BiS items. Something current WoW lacks.
Where do you get this from?
Same classes? Check!
AP? Check!
Pathfinder? Check?
Sorry dude. Ions got your fun by the jaggal pearls.
I was about to resubscribe but this thread stopped me on my tracks. It reminded me of the multiple grinds and BS Iâll have to deal with JUST to play with everybody else.
Thanks for saving me 15$.
I will just list the pre-requisite steps required for a fresh character to jump directly into the final raid tier of each expansion. Reach your own conclusions from this.
BC:
Wrath:
Cata:
MoP:
WoD:
Legion:
BFA:
^ So much this what a concise post!
The AP grind doesnât exist. Iâm at 72 now, I could get to 73 by the end of the week and all I really need to get to is 75. Thatâs not really going to be an issue
Everything else is the same as itâs always been. Just do your dailies and youâll get everything you need.
Seriously, screw people who comment with these halfbaked ridiculous comments. Weâre allowed to be critical and speak out against things we dislike. We can play the game and enjoy other aspects of the game while criticizing the things we dont agree with. Come back when you have something better to contribute.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was making people believe the AP grind didnât exist.
If Iâm not mistaken the shoulder enchants where boa, so that was even optional on an alt. I may be wrong though.