8.1.5. Spoilers

N’Zoth voice lines that i found interesting

3:05 “The Light has stuck a bargain with the enemy of All” - It could be talking about the recent relationship between the light use with the undead and could be referring to an alliance with death or something something akin to it.

3:12 “Six seats at the high table, Six mouths that hunger, One will consume all others” - it could be talking about the six positions of leadership within either the Horde or Alliance.

Edit: It is also maybe saying that one leader betray their faction or some else akin to it.

Edit2: Could be could be referring to the Alliance more as the Horde leaderships only 4 active leaders and the “high” word could be referring to the title High King of the Alliance.

3:30 “The veil wins(or Wayne’s?), his crown will open the way” - It could be referring to Anduin’s adventure to Mists of Pandaria and what happened or his current problems dealing with the war.

3:40 “The fall of night reveals her true face”, don’t knew if the next one is conacted ,“She will only bring ruin when her arrow finds it mark, the last fetter will fall away” - The first one could be referring to a Elune during turning of the night, the second one referring to someone that shoots an arrow that will lead to release of something(N’zoth most likely).

Edit: All together it may be talking about someone showing their true nature that will cause the arrow to be fired which leads to the said release.

Remember the old gods are not our allies, but knowing what they whisper may hold insight to the future.

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Is this new?

I found an Inert Voodoo Mask in Nazmir that says to come back with an enchanter. My mage is one so I could come back on him, but if this isn’t new and it already exists on live I’m not gonna waste my time.

Also, all the Legion Dal portals are gone. Duuuuumb. Especially without CoT or Kara ones in the new SW/Org rooms.

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I disagree, if anything this makes Zelling go into the exact same boat as Baine (I mean he asked to be raised and literally contributed to a LOT of the messed up evil stuff done in Kul Tiras just to… qq cause Derek? I mean what exactly makes Derek´s transformation into undead worse than attacking his own former country men and indirectly putting into risk his own family thanks to the war he´s actively participating in, hmm?

It´s just as ridiculous as Baine don´t batting an eyelash for the lose of Tauren lives in Lordaeron / Southern Barrens / etc. while he qqs over “muh poor Derek!!”

Indeed. The whole “lul, Derek kills Katherine” is idiotic cause the only thing Sylvanas achieves with it is to make Jaina go all she-Hulk against the Horde again… not precisely something smart with the current OP fanwank surrounding Jaina herself.

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The hell? Even the ones to hillsbrad etc.?

Yes.

Guess we’re only allowed to have one big collection of portals to Blizz.

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What are you saying!? Hate undead? No no no, some of my best friends are undead. Now just join us and wipe out all the “bad” undead and we can all get along.

Yeah that is cool to see.

It is good to see someone say something like that. On either Faction… The Horde needs more of it. It is not out right disobedience - it is a declaration and expectation of mutual respect.

I believe Talanji is the only true royalty in the Horde at the moment.

Sylvanas is a Queen but in a curious way. She wasn’t born into it. She created a kingdom of free willed undead and made herself Queen.

Gallywix is a Trade Prince but that is more a mercantile title than traditional royalty.

Mayla and Baine are hereditary rulers but not royalty.

So it makes sense that Talanji has a right to request equal treatment as a Queen.

I wonder what Sylvanas’s reply was.

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How does it sound like Garrosh 2.0 if Talanji is rejecting Bwons deal. Did I miss something?

YES.

It’s about time that the Forsaken recognize Sylvanas’s willful disregard for their core tennant philosophy of civilization.

Same. I will be so mad if they kill him.

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Then pray tell how he doesn´t care for all the other REALLY messed up stuff that he has happened to contribute with? How is poor wittle Derek more relevant than Nathanos sacrificing the admiral, Zelling himself causing mayhem in Tirisgarde, etc.?

Nah, do keep your “muh moral” hypocritical Forsaken, I rather stay with the ones that at least keep a semblance of coherency into their writting… (I mean if they´re “bad”, well then they are and that´s it).

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His countrymen were going to be dragged into a war no matter what he did. His help was dependent on making sure his family was taken care of, and his joining the forsaken was under the belief that he’d be allowed to maintain his free will.

I think it’s understandable that he’d want to prioritize the safety of his immediate family over the rest of Kul’tiras if he was certain they’d get caught in the crossfire and died, but he already didn’t feel comfortable with being a traitor anyway. I think it makes sense that he’d find Derek’s treatment abhorrent, because it means he was lied to about the kind of group he was choosing to join.

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At least someone is happy about the forsaken culture crumbling all around us as another warchief turns against the horde.

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i don’t know much about forsaken identity, but for what people told me, it is because sylvanas has done the one thing that you shouldn’t do., the taboo.
and that is “free will”
maybe he believed that he was doing the right thing, and he intended to just end the war as soon as possible, he didn’t know what were the intentions of the forsaken leader.
we can say that he has been fooled.

now, don’t quote me on that because forsakens morals have been at least… strange, but is nice to see finally something good about them.
and that not everyone are monsters who deserve to be exterminated. that is, in my opinion great.

at least he wasn’t a damn coward like baine and he, in fact, has done something about it.

if there is someone who doesn’t deserve to die, that is zelling and his family.
and why do you think that being “hypocrital” is such a terrible crime? people in real life are also hypocrite in some things. is a valid flaw like any other.

Whoa. That seems like that’s going to make questing through Legion content miserable. I remember a bunch of the Legion quests specifically telling you to use those portals.

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found this item…
does this activates any alarms? :o

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Am I the only one who doesn’t give a crap about Zelling? He is a rather boring character all around. Not only that but hes stupid.

“Hey Ill just turn myself into a zombie without telling my family ahead of time Im sure they will be 100% fine with it.”

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https://ptr.wowhead.com/news=289620/kul-tiran-shaman-totem-models

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Maybe, but then again he giving crucial information to make things go worse for the Kul Tirans doesn´t exactly give him the moral highground, your know?

Loool… Amalia is just right next to him!! Does he not speak with her or what? (Lul I mean one would think the very first thing he would ask her is “sooo… you were deathly sick too?!? or why did you decide to become Forsaken” and afterwards when she answers… bam!! consentual raising theory out of the window!!)

And what of Mr. Disposable Admiral? I didn´t see Zelling anguishing when Nathanos disposed of the Admiral as if he was garbage or something.

Frankly this whole “QQQ buut, buut!! muh poor Derek” trend going on with Horde NPCs is disturbing AF -especially considering the guy was probably Daelin Jr. while alive-

Cause in this case is just being used as a vehicle for bad writting and to try to force people to “accept or resign themselves” to a cheap MoP 2.0 narrative… anbd sorry but if devs pretend to sell us recycled content then I think we need a reduction in the sub price (I mean one doesn´t pay the same amount of money for “reused” stuff, right?)

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Do you play while wearing a blindfold? Zelling is never cool with anything we do. He does it to keep his family safe.

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