8.2 Mount Equipment and Water Strider

I have a plethora of times. Blizzard says “Hey we don’t want people to ONLY use th water strider for water walking or feel forced to get it at all if they don’t like it so we’re implementing a system where any mount can water walk and taking the ability away so people don’t feel like they HAVE to get it”

Everyone wanting it to keep its passive is completely ignoring that and saying “IT’S NOT FAIR!!! I EARNED IT! It should keep water walking and I should let my other mounts use all the other mount equipment!” which literally completely negates the entire reason Blizzard made mount equipment in the first place…

Instead, It’s a MUCH better suggestion to allow every mount to have its own mount equipment. Want water walking on your water strider? It can have it. Want parachute on your wolf? It can have it!

It would be a lot better for everyone all around…what they’re asking for is not only not a good idea, but completely negates the entire reason mount equipment was made…

I don’t think hurt fee fees constitutes a reason to report people. Sorry I don’t agree with your opinion?

Trolling, indeed. Insulting other members rather than countering their arguments and supporting one’s own. I also reported the troll.

I have also now flagged the extra insult edited into that last post.

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They did earn it like I did and you know why they are nerfing it only.

A good attempt to explain, however, it’s not clear who you are arguing against? “all mounts should get their own” isn’t something anyone other than Blizzard has disagreed with. Adding the strider to the list of mounts with unique abilities exempted from the equipment is nothing more than a small step towards all mounts having their own slot.

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Every single one of these water strider threads say “Let me have the water strider keep water walking and be able to use mount equipment for the rest of my mounts”

which is literally the opposite reasoning as to why Blizzard is implementing this in the first place.

I’m arguing against people suggesting bad ideas that don’t make sense.

You’re somewhat of a late adopter of that view. It was first suggested (then over and over and mistakenly assumed to be how it was happening) long before you joined that first thread. Mount equipment is a great idea for a system that Blizzard is once again implementing poorly, to repeat again what I and others have said.

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While at the same time, supporting Blizzard for their bad ideas which don’t make sense.

One of their reasoning points, is “too many striders”.
I’ve recently started a fresh character, and almost everyone I’ve crossed paths with, is using the Sky Golem as a source of extra XP.
There are “too many Golems”, yet for some reason, these are exempt?
Nonsensical.

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Not really, I already stated there’s better suggestions. AKA the water strider people are wrong and Blizzard’s idea could be better as well.

I mean I’ve owned the sky golem and never used it, my only herb char is a druid because that’s what people did before sky golems. But it makes sense to remove that and add it to mount equipment too I guess.

I still think every mount having its own mount equipment is the best idea of them all though, as long as it’s not insanely expensive.

No it wouldn’t They could pop mount equipment in and out as many times as they please.

I just did a test. On live server I jumped off a cliff into water on my strider. It damaged me for half my health and the strider went under water.

On PTR I did not take any damage when I jumped from the exact same location, although my mount went under water. (I did not look down on either attempts)

In the past I would take very little damage when jumping from a cliff on live server, and last time I tested on the PTR (same location) I lost 1/2 of my health.

I still haven’t heard the rationale behind this. In today’s wow, how does it give me an advantage? Mobs respawn fast, they are free tags. So, someone on a strider might get there a little faster. So would someone with gliders in their bags.

It isn’t like you are going to miss out on anything if I get there earlier than you do.

There is no way the current development team would allow each mount to have it’s own equipment. It defeats their purpose.

They tried to do this in Legion Alpha and the players would have none of it. This was after they had removed water-walking completely. Blizzard does not want people water-walking past all the hazards they’ve added to slow players down.

Couldn’t you use that same argument with the anti-strider people? It is very short-sided to think that blizzard will not limit/remove the water-walking mount equipment in 9.0

Don’t flag them, ignore them. If you flag them it risks getting this thread locked down like the original one is. It has been locked down for 10 days now.

Well, if they left my strider alone, I’d be very happy not to use any of the mount equipment at all. I don’t use the crafted stuff now. I’ve learned how to periodically turn towards mobs when being chased so I don’t get dazed. And I don’t need any slow fall. And I really don’t care about adding additional speed. It isn’t very much so it is not worth paying gold for.

This is what your problem is. You automatically go to the “other side is wrong” because they have a different opinion than you do. I don’t think you are wrong by wanting mount equipment on all your mounts, I just think that Blizzard would never do that because it negates the purpose of crafted mount equipment.

I also don’t care if it was on all equipment because I really don’t care if you have this imaginary advantage over me.

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Your solution is “carry around a bunch of crap in your bag and constantly swap it in and out”

vs. just summoning a mount that has water walking. Ease of use is a thing.

You get to carry the crap in your bag and constantly swap in and out from now on because that’s what Blizzard wants you to do. That’s not what Kiwi wants.

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Like I said before, both ideas are bad.

That’s your opinion.

But I would like for Blizzard to leave our Water Striders alone, and make it so it is also uneffected by the Mount Equipment system, the same way they have done for the Water Strider.

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Which is a bad idea because the whole reason they’re doing mount equipment is so people aren’t forced to ride the water strider for water walking, which in my opinion is a great idea. It’s an ugly bug.

A better suggestion is make every mount be able to use its own mount equipment, everyone wins.

You are going to have to do this anyway, and on all of your toons. Unless you plan on never switching out the equipment.

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That’s why there’s better suggestions than “My wah wah strider should always have water walking!”

Like…every mount can use a separate mount equip. It’s a win win for everyone. Nobodies forced to use any one mount for anything.

BUT NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO USE THE WATER STRIDER!

As I mentioned earlier, it is your choice whether you use the Water Strider or use the Mount Equipment system. But even now, there is several options to water walking without:
a. Using the Water Strider
b. Rolling a DK or Shaman

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That’s as stupid as if there were only one flying mount and saying “NOBODIES FORCING YOU TO USE IT!”

It’s advantageous to use the water mount, there’s no denying that. The advantage is walking on water!

Several options! Either be forced to use the water strider or re-roll your class and be forced to play only 2 classes!

Really convincing there, buddy.

Well, if there was only 1 flying mount, nobody is forcing you to use that either.

Blizzard isn’t going to be standing over the top of you, with a gun aiming at you, and say, “Nope, you got to use this mount.” Everything you do in the game is by your own choice. Not mine. Not Kiwi. Not Blizzards. Your choice.

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Really? You honestly believe that? Nobody would be forced to use it? You’re so daft it’s insane. Yeah nobodies going to fly a 300%+ flying speed mount and stay on their ground mounts because…nobodies FORCING you to.

You’re literally arguing semantics. :roll_eyes:

It’s advantageous to have a mount that can walk on water: Fact Not having it puts you at a disadvantage. Simple enough for you?