I’m looking forward to giving the Dreadwake the ability to finally float, but the wrongness of the waterstrider losing its inherent waterstriding flippin bugs me.
They could easily not break the waterstrider by giving it the herb golem treatment. See? Everyone wins.
People who supposedly hate the waterstrider can put floats on whatever mount they want, but breaking my waterstrider is not required to do that.
It’s just one more instance of breaking something that doesn’t need to be broken, and it breaks immersion by being broken.
Demonsteel Stirrups(https://www.wowhead.com/item=136708/demonsteel-stirrups) were a thing in Legion that allowed you to interact with the world while mounted. It could easily be made into mount equipment. So they could make every mount like the Golem.
But instead of treating all mounts with a innate ability equal, they single out 1 and break it. Makes me think the only reason for the mount equipment is to get rid of the water strider, out of 700+ mounts they single out it and destroy it’s ability.
I don’t think that; the two things are only tangentially connected. I do think eventually there’s a good chance Blizzard will prune away the DK and Shaman water walking spells. I could be wrong, but given their pruning obsession, it’s not a completely crazy idea.
Also, I’m not sure where you get “funny boy” from all that, but that’s not the crux of the argument.
Latest PTR build doesn’t change anything regarding mount equipment, so i’m thinking it’s where they’ll leave it.
Removes water walking from water striders.
Exempts all of the swimming mounts and the sky golem.
BoA item from Anglers rep emulates water strider’s ability to not break effect when taking fall damage, but only one of those items can be carried/purchased at any given time by a character with the required rep.
So it appears they are going forward with not only a slight given to players who earned the mount (regardless of when and how), but also, IMO, the wrong decision of how to implement the system. Changing it to mount specific account-wide would be preferable to me. That would put the water strider exactly back to square one with the freee BoA mailed to repped characters. They could slap that on the water strider and have it be “exactly as it was”, as Kaivax stated. Players without the rep could either acquire the rep to gain access to the BoA item, or purchase/craft the item that will be profession based, and put that only any mount they want so they aren’t forced to use an ugly mount for water walking.
What they should have done is just left the water striders alone, and have the BoA water walking item placed behind a rep in current expansion content. Call it Path of Dry Land. That would allow all players to work towards a current rep without “having to go back in old content” . And do the same for each expansion going forward, keeping current skills/perks tied to current content.
On a side note, I feel there should be some way to remove the mount equipment slotted. Currently the only way to do that is to burn another slot item, replacing it, not removing it. The system needs to make use of vanishing powder or something similar to remove the equipped item.
How about the concern that they are removing a permanent mount ability with a consumable, which they can easily limit or remove at any point they choose.
Except the whole reason they literally made mount equipment was to not force people to grind for the water strider. Keeping water walking on it completely negates their reason to even make mount equipment in the first place, they even said that.
I never felt forced to do anything. I chose to do the grind for the water strider, and I chose to do it because it is a water walker.
I’ve never liked the “forced” argument people use on these forums.
This impending change has shown me, though, that achieving things in this game is a pretty risky proposition. Moving forward, if there are any really cool rep-based mounts to be earned, I won’t bother.
Those other mounts don’t have water walking? I mean, is it really that hard to comprehend or you just blatantly straw manning?
And that will be your CHOICE
Personally I’d be glad if I had it or not, I don’t think the ONLY mount to have water walking should be an ugly bug mount and if people WANT a mount that has water walking they shouldn’t be forced to use the ugly thing.
There are LOTS of mounts I see in this game that I find atrociously ugly. But if other players like them, great – more power to them. I just choose not to use them, and I never complain about them here.
Which is fine, that’s YOUR choice and YOUR opinion. Forcing everyone to use an ugly bug mount is wrong imo and am 100% glad they’re getting rid of its passive and making it equal to all mounts.
If they didn’t everyone would be forced to get it and still use it as a water walker while using a different mount equip. It’s literally why they made mount equipment, they even explained it.
What I think is going to be awesome, though, is the crying that will happen on these forums when the change goes live. All the “player choice” that people think they are getting with this new system is nothing but a snare and an illusion.
When players realize that mount equipment is applied per character, and not per mount, they’re going to be pretty disappointed. A lot of people still think they’ll be able to have a water walking mount, and an anti-daze mount, and a speed mount. But they won’t, because of the way this system is limiting to choice rather than expanding of it.
Every cyclical gamer, ever. You have to sink into the mind-set. If it’s not the tactically superior option, it’s not an option.
You can talk around that until you are blue in the face, but for these gamers that’s the only game in town. It’s their play-style. It’s very personal, and so yes, if the game designs something that is a clear tactical advantage they will perform any task to obtain that advantage even if they loath how it looks while using it.
So, given that play-style - 100% Blizzard “forced” that sub-set of gamers into grinding for and obtaining a mount they never wanted to ride in the first place.
Think of it like the military - someone swipes something from a locker in a room that was closed but not locked - both parties are punished: one for stealing, the other for tempting.
It’s not my cup of tea. RP is my cup of tea and why I find the removal of the Strider’s native ability unpalatable for me. But I do encourage everyone to acknowledge other players play-styles. They are not being histrionic, they honestly felt forced because of the tactical advantage.
I see where you’re going with that, but I still disagree. I don’t like raiding, so I don’t. And I make the choice that my gear is not what it could be. But it’s not worth it to me to get involved with the raiding scene, just to have better gear.
I just shrug it off; no one is forcing me to do anything. But some of the anti-strider folks here act like that mount is some kind of personal affront or something. They loathe and despise it, and feel like they’ve been “forced” to use it.
The thing is, Blizzard could have avoided this whole debacle very easily, by:
making mount equipment mount-specific, rather than character specific. Or,
leaving the strider’s ability alone, just like they’re doing with the sky golem. Or,
going the route of mount transmog, rather than equipment. Or,
leaving everything alone, and creating more water walking mounts.
I do not need to, they created this skip for those who do not like to grind rep.
Your argument is:
Which I take as there are some people who do not want to do rep grinds but want the perks that some rep grinds give. If the purpose of making the mount equipment was to “not force people to grind rep”, then they would not continue to introduce rep mounts.
You never were forced to use the cute bug mount. You could have used water walking potions. However, Blizzard had the option to make additional water walking mounts (including the boat which should have had water walking). They chose not to.
We also know that since they started developing Legion, they have been trying to get rid of the strider’s water walking ability. They said it was because they didn’t want people to feel they had to use that mount, yet they never introduced additional water walking mounts. This would have been an easy fix.
They did introduce new under-water mounts in Legion, which makes sense since Legion was based on a bunch of islands. It also would have made sense to introduce more water-walking mounts. Yet they chose not to.
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