8.2 Mount Equipment and Water Strider

[Urrik-moon-guard]

I have an absorb shield azerite trait and I have a water strider.

I’m going to get the enchanting mount equipment that gives me the 20% speed boost.

Then I get to ride fast, over water, without fear of being dismounted.
If I can’t fly, I guess that’s the consolation prize I’ll have to live with, but no less.

This post illustrates how most players have no idea what this change entails.

It’s going to be really fun to see the uproar over mount equipment once it goes live, and players realize they’ve been had.

Once again, I hate to be the guy that says “I told ya so,” but there you have it.

[Warpstone-norgannon (Warpstone)]

No you won’t.
In 8.2 water striders lose water walking.
You can use speed boost equipment so all your mounts can ride fast, or you can use water walking equipment so all your mounts can water walk.

Then in 9.0 we will loose it all, won’t that be wonderful. It will either come back with pathfinder or it will be gone for ever. I’ll pick it will be gone for ever because that’s what Blizzard wants.

[Tarc-fenris (Tarc)]

@Sarallesta-moon-guard

Well, then please, explain, how does the Mount Equipment system become something better than the current system? Because the mount equipment system, is bring nothing to the game.

@Ironnic-cenarius

If there are the mount equipment that allows a player to use their mount on water, why do we need abilities then?

As you were told before;

8.2 Mount Equipment and Water Strider

It brings a customizable mount system, and retires what has been a cheap crutch that should have been expired when WoD launched, honestly. So if a new player hits level 90 the day that 8.2 launches, they’ll now have to wait another 10 levels to unlock the new system, instead of going right out to the Anglers and grinding it for 3 weeks? Is that the issue? Seems like an edge case hardly worth worrying about. As I said, at one point it was all, i.e. literally, like how the Safari Hat used …

Want No Daze, buy/craft leatherworking bards or roll a tank
Want Water Walking? Buy/Craft Elixir of Water Walking, roll a DK or Shaman or use a water strider.
Want reduced/no Fall Damage? Buy/Craft Goblin Gliders or Roll a Priest or Mage.

The game is better for these changes, a little less mollycoddling will do some people around here a world of good. You shouldn’t get to do everything at once, anymore than you can pick all 3 talents on the same level row.

@Warpstone-norgannon

Then in 9.0 we will loose it all

You’re one of those glass-half-empty kinda people, eh?

[Urrik-moon-guard]

As you were told before

Wow. You never stop, do you?

[Sarallesta-moon-guard]

You shouldn’t get to do everything at once, anymore than you can pick all 3 talents on the same level row.

That is a bread and butter argument.

And actually, we shouldn’t be forced to do only 1 of these things at a time. Virtually, your here now telling everyone that we’re not allowed to have options on how we play the game.

[Tarc-fenris (Tarc)]

Virtually, your here now telling everyone that we’re not allowed to have options on how we play the game.

I don’t like having to shuffle blacksmithing off to an alt, while my main is mining and engineering.

BLIZZ STOP DENYING ME MY CHOICEZ GIVE US 3 PROFESSION SLOTS NAO!!!

You’ll either get used to the new system, or move on. Either way, it’s coming in a month, or whenever 8.2 is dropping.

[Warpstone-norgannon (Warpstone)]

You’re one of those glass-half-empty kinda people, eh?

No not really I just know Blizzard. Remember

like many things in a 15-year-old oft-expanded game, things change.

So when the mount equipment disappears in 9.0 Remember things change.

[Tarc-fenris (Tarc)]

So when the mount equipment disappears in 9.0 Remember things change.

You’re entitled to this opinion of course, but it helps if it is based on something at least faintly resembling logic. “I feel screwed in 8.2, they’re just gonna screw me more in 9.0” is kinda vapid.

[Sarallesta-moon-guard]

I don’t like having to shuffle blacksmithing off to an alt, while my main is mining and engineering.

BLIZZ STOP DENYING ME MY CHOICEZ GIVE US 3 PROFESSION SLOTS NAO!!!

Once again, another bread and butter argument. You’re completely going by something else now that has nothing to do with the current topic at hand.

You’ll either get used to the new system, or move on. Either way, it’s coming in a month, or whenever 8.2 is dropping.

And it goes to show that Blizzard doesn’t listen to there own playerbase on these sort of things. Oh, no, BfA was rushed so badly, a lot of things are broken. Almost a year later and things are still broken.

Then trolls like yourself, coming to the forums, and then telling everyone that they should not have options, and then telling them to adapt or move on, ugh, how much does Blizzard pay you to kiss there ***?

[Jops-zuljin]

It has infringed on the innate abilities of DKs and Shaman, and by making people choose WW at the possible expense of something else, i.e. daze, slow-fall, this gives those 2 classes a bit of their exclusivity back. Same with mages and the portal rooms.

“Exclusivity”? Boo hoo.

“Aww! Lefties don’t feel exclusive enough, let’s go chop the left hands off all righthanded people to make them feel special again.”

Shaman/DK already have the ability to use Water Walking in places where mounting isn’t possible, that’s superior to water striders. Do they really need MORE to feel “special” ? It’s a utility… not a class fantasy defining ability.

This is 100% about implementing expansion-reset mentality over the game so they can throw out anything and everything every 2 years to start over from scratch.

Blizzard has totally given up on WoW being a persistent MMORPG and is turning it into a it to resemble a pointless ‘game lobby’ funneling people into meaningless infinitely repeatable instances.

They’ve got a choice: Make world pve content more compelling so that DOING it is more fun… or respect the rewards that motivated us to do their formulaic template-driven schlock in the first place.

Because if they’re not going to do either, neither will most of us.

[Urrik-moon-guard]

They’ve got a choice: Make world pve content more compelling so that DOING it is more fun… or respect the rewards that motivated us to do their formulaic template-driven schlock in the first place.

Because if they’re not going to do either, neither will most of us.

This. As I’ve stated elsewhere in this thread and others, I’m finished grinding for anything meaningful in this game. Blizzard continues to show us they don’t respect our effort, and takes things we earned away.

[Warpstone-norgannon (Warpstone)]

“I feel screwed in 8.2, they’re just gonna screw me more in 9.0” is kinda vapid.

Let’s see… Guild permissions, portals, glyphs, reforging, group finder, pve & pvp realms, pvp vendor, pve vendor, water strider, class abilities, Class sets, pvp gear, /whistle emote.

Naaa Blizzards never taken any thing away from us, I’m Just dreaming, it will never happen.

[Fixi-garrosh]

I’m going to use the water strider mount almost exclusively then when 8.2 hits. Why should you care about what other people use? Mind your own business.

Go for it, I bet I won’t ever see you, so feel free to flip the bird while you ride around pretending i will

[Jops-zuljin]

I’m usually told that by people who have lost their argument, and resort to ad hominems in lieu of discussing the topic, yes.

Lemme see if I have this right. Your entire argument boils down to 3 main points:

• “Exclusivity!” because DK’s and Shamans are entitled whiney-babies that apparently deserve extra special treatment.
• “Too many ugly bugs!” because bug-ophobes are entitled whiney-babies that apparently deserve not to be triggered by many gosh darned water striders in the game
• “Things Change” because Blizzard is an entitled whiney-baby knows best and player-pushback is a terrible thing that you, personally, must white-knight against.

Was there anything I missed? Because that seems like a whole bunch of nothing-butter to me.

[Ricknroguing-azralon]

Soo the game is ruined because you have more options?
Fun is pretty subjective, but yours definition is not subjective, but baseless. Feels like trying to convince miss crazy cat lady that her way of life is pretty unhealthy for both her and the cats.

Unless you can actually say that more mounts availables with the same capicity is a bad thing then well, grunt as you like but charisma is definately not part of your plan.

[Warpstone-norgannon (Warpstone)]

Soo the game is ruined because you have more options?

What extra options? We already have every thing mount equipment is offering. I am keeping what I already have and loosing my water striders ability, seems to me I now have less options not more.

[Mossclaw-wyrmrest-accord (Mossclaw)]

Soo the game is ruined because you have more options?

Welcome to the thread. It’s a common misconception that those who want to exempt the Water Strider to the incoming mount equip system do not want the mount equip system.

This is false.

All that is being requested is that the Water Strider be exempt from the system and not have an equipment slot, thus retaining it’s named ability.

[Warpstone-norgannon (Warpstone)]

All that is being requested is that the Water Strider be exempt from the system and not have an equipment slot, thus retaining it’s named ability.

This is so hard to understand. If they can exempt all the other innate abilities on mounts they can exempt this one also.

Keep the mount equipment exempt the strider. Hard to comprehend I know. But hey, Hooked on Phonics worked for me!

[Flextape-archimonde]

someone is mad about their water strider…

More at 11.

[Alorein-wyrmrest-accord (Alorein)]

Blizzard seems incapable of making something new without breaking things.

Blizzard seem like the kid that would make you macaroni art but destroy the cupboard where the macaroni was and get glue all over everything. The thought is nice but the execution is terrible.