8.2.5 Discussions (Spoilers Ahoy!)

Going somewhere else to sit around a be window dressing, they’re really moving up in the world.

I agree, but two things:

  1. You cannot comprehend the giggles I get imagining something that big, that bright and covered in glowing runic tattoos trying to be stealthy.

  2. Flipping the above point around, they might actually be the best Rogues because they might be able to use the innate Light magic in their bodies to literally bend light around themselves, Yautja/Predator style.

On the subject of making Humans interesting in fantasy? Don’t make them european, and don’t make them the dominant species in the setting. Look at Human history. Now throw magic into that, throw ‘fantastic racism’ into the mix and have Humanity rubbing shoulders with races that are capable of flipping cars one-handed or innate magical abilities that can fry you with a glance and yeah, Humanity is either that red-haired step-child at the family table or they become the Halflings of the Setting. They’re everywhere, but they kind of don’t have any real political power or influence because they’d good at everything but not great at anything.

OK this is amazing and I want this.

Also they would wear cute little booties on their hooves to prevent any cloppity sounds

To me the racial restrictions just feel unrealistic at this point. When something is particularly effective people try and copy it. Nearly every race on Azeroth would have been rushing to develop their own druids years ago.

Death knights might be the only real exception, hard to get volunteers for that, but they were raising new death knights all the time last expansion.

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You should *see me, I’m basically an Ogre rogue/Yowie IRL. It can be done. The best part about being a sneaky giant is scaring the wind out of your targets with a :slight_smile: hi!

Interesting.

If Shadowlands ends up being real and they have Sylvanas using Genocide for heroic reasons Im going to laugh myself into a maigraine everytime I log into FFXIV

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Please, don’t hurt yourself like that.

On the whole, the leak sounds cool. I’ll be ignoring the Sylvanas crap because the rest sounds legitimately cool.

The Shadowlands sounds interesting - I’d be keen for Kel’thuzad to return.

Even if Sylvanas did do it for heroic reasons though, I can’t see any of my toons being like “Oh yeah, fair enough then.” Like… No. Sylvanas was murdering people en masse. That’s not heroic under any circumstances.

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The issue is that Blizzard would play it as everyone forgives her and anyone still holding a grudge is bad and crazy

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Yeah that’s what I’m afraid of too, I can almost see Anduin scolding people for not forgiving Sylvanas now.

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If any faction leader forgives Sylvanas then I’m going to eat too much ice cream the day of that leak.

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“Azeroth is freeeeeee,” Sylvanas wails as a grateful night elf population applauds.

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Considering their take away from WoD is “now Yrel is crazy and Grom is total bada^@ hero that everyone loves even Durotans daughter cause hes so awesome”

I see this as a distinct possibility

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I mean, the Horde faction leaders forgiving Sylvanas isn’t that unreasonable. The Alliance leaders should want her dead until the game shuts down.

If I’m reading the leak right it looks like the factional forces in the shadowlands have Sylvanas backed by Helya and Tyrande backed by Elune. So there is still the possibility no one on the Alliance side will have to forgive Sylvanas.

Ugh, the shadow lands are full of all the old dead major characters… that’s a bit disappointing. Especially Rhonin.

Blizzard have become the masters of taking cool concepts (bonus points if its something the community has been looking forward to for years) and ruining (or at least doing their damndest to try to ruin) it with the most offensively awful story possible.

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So you’re saying we’re definitely getting a heartfelt cinematic where Tyrande forgives Sylvanas?

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“Genocide is okay, sometimes.” - Ion Hazzikostas, apparently

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Even if Sylvanas did do all of this for supposedly heroic reasons, it’s stupid reasoning.

I mean, we’re the adventurers of Azeroth. We literally go everywhere there’s a threat to this world, even two versions of Draenor, and the homeworld of the Burning Legion itself.

Sylvanas could’ve just asked for some volunteers to fight her Shadowlands battle and we woulda been so down, without her having to murder everyone.

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