7 Months from Community Council...Did it miss the mark?

It does give the feeling that they will ignore threads outside of it more.
And perception is reality.

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CC can’t be a net positive when it’s just another venue for Blizzard to ignore things. When they do talk about “the hard hitting issues”, it’s about chickens in TBC.

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My only gripe with the community council is how it’s not interactive enough.

I get why you wouldn’t want everyone posting there but if each paragraph and an upvote and downvote you’d get a more granulated idea of how the community at large feel about what they were saying.

They tend to post in a very long format and you might agree with some things they say and disagree with others. And how are the devs or council going to know how the player base feels about their posts and ideas.

All we have now is reporting their posts which isn’t a good way to express how you feel but players do it and the like this post button.

I have no recourse to express myself in the CC forums.

Have an upvote/downvote tool for each paragraph or restrict post length to paragraph size then add upvote/downvote.

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Also we kinda lost Q&As, and I’m pretty sure we got less answers from CC than from those.

We have them, but they do those with various influencers usually - or so it seems. Most of the Dragonflight Q&A stuff was done with streamers. They DID do the long “deep dive” though which I will give them credit for.

I get that you want to give feedback, but a vote, esp when people can briggade it and use alts, does not really tell the Devs much.

WHY matters a lot more. You can do that by making a thread here and linking the CC post you want to talk about. That also notifies the CC person that you are linking and quoting them. Many will come and engage in chat with you about whatever topic you are interested in talking about. Discussions like that give the Devs a lot more info than up and down votes.

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Those are interviews not Q&As and we had both, influencers often target more subjects only interesting for them, like the CC.

If that’s an issue only let people vote once per account. Or IP.

That’s fair. I’m not sure if there have actually been less interaction from Blizz since the inception of the council, but a valid take nonetheless.

Yeah, I guess we can see that in the interaction GD has with the council. The perception that it’s a bad thing becomes the reality.

Hahaha, yes I remember that thread and having a few questions myself. I’m no avid classic player and I didn’t start playing WoW until the very end of TBC, so I had absolutely no clue what was going on in that thread :joy:
That said though, I would disagree in that there have been some great posts (IMO) on hard hitting topics like the Tier Set design questions, season 4 questions, and even the motion sickness issue in places like Grimrail Depot

Yeah the reporting posts option isn’t a great one either. I know there was a lot of talk about up/down votes back in December. I was indifferent on the topic, but at the time a lot of the CC members were, for lack of a better term, attacked in game and on the forums just because they were a part of the CC, so a downvote system could have been more so directed at the poster, than their post.

I don’t know how to do this and I bet many others don’t. Upvote/downvote is intuitive.

I’m also not making a new thread every time I agree or disagree with someone on there.

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That sucks but having no say in who represents you is not a good system.

Agreed, but unfortunately I do think having people vote would have been worse overall. The people picked would have been streamers and other people with some sort of popularity.

People like me, who play alliance on a small server and weren’t super active on the forums prior to the CC would NEVER have gotten added to the council. I have been truly honored to be on the CC, and tried to do my best to help give a voice to as many people as I can, but if not for the way selection was done I’d have never been given that chance.

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What? No.

I mean an upvote/downvote on comments not who gets to be in the council. Maybe consider if a CC member is always being downvoted consider removing them. But this has nothing to do with who is a CC member.

If all the CC members started to promote a feature the player base did not want we’d have no recourse in the CC forum section.

I do think for a lot of people that does work agaisn’t them more than it helps.
And I’m including myself in that.

Sorry, I misunderstood.

I’d be fine with an up/down vote system. The primary issue I see with it is that excessive downvotes might make the CC poster not want to keep including thoughts that are important to them.

Regardless of what you say, you can always find someone who disagrees with you. Even if the issue is very important to the CC poster, some may see a few downvotes and think its not worth their time to continue their thoughts, when a brilliant idea might be in that next post that they’re questioning making.

At the bottom of each post is a chain link icon. Click that and it will show you the post link so that you can copy it. It can be done on mobile too. Then go to the forum you want to post in, and put that link in your post.

If you don’t have posting rights yet, you can highlight the link and use the preformatted text button </> which makes it so that you can post the text of the link.

Example.

You now also have a notification icon by your avatar telling you that i linked your post. Just like you get when someone responds to you.

No, you can’t post there and voting does not tell the Devs much. If you really really want to give feedback you are going to have to use the tools you do have - and make a thread here. If you care, chances are others care too and would join your thread. Having written out reasons for why you agree, or don’t agree, is extremely useful feedback.

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All good brother.

Yeah, I get that. But I think it would be worse if they kept posting and advocating for ideas that the player base does not want.

I would hope it would lead to them reevaluating their ideas and doing more research.

But such things would also have to be taken with a grain of salt too the wow community is much bigger that the wow forum community.

The wow community as a whole maybe before an idea but that the wow forum community is against or vise versa.

Thanks. But this will not be read or known by the vast majority of players who would use this.

I disagree that voting does not give valuable information.

Generally, I will just not give feedback in the CC forums outside of the like this post button. I’m sure I’m not alone.

Yes, it is but that doesn’t mean agree or disagree feedback without written feedback isn’t valuable either though.

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I’ll give it a try though. But my expectations are low.

oh so edgy. careful not to cut yourself on that edge. everytime i see one of these posts i think of a petulant teenager running to their room screaming “mom you just don’t understand me!” your basically dehumanizing someone and saying they are invalid because of a stupid text color. get over yourself.

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the only way downvotes should be bought back is if they have NO ability to hide posts.