I don’t think I’ve ever seen the community council address valid concerns. Anything I’ve ever seen them bring up in the forum is all but scripted, even down to the blue reply.
It’s almost as if they’re told what they’re allowed to post.
Conspiramacy.
Not even one duck thread.
No, there is not. We have a discord with the CMs for admin purposes, but we are not allowed to chat about any of the feedback topics there. It all has to be public where everyone can read it. We can coordinate of course - like if 2 people both want to talk about a subject they might discuss who wants to make a thread and the other just adds to it.
As for the live chats mentioned, so far there are none of those.
Yeah, that is a conspiracy. Sorry that nobody has posted something you are are interesed in. There are a ton of topics across the spectrum. What did you want to talk about?
I called it out DURING the reveal in the first feedback thread the Devs had on the CC forum! I am sure I am not the only one. We now have DUCKS!
I was joking before but I did trust Letholas. Sorry if there was confusion.
Can someone list the actual achievements of the community council ?
Having more blue posts than the other forums.
This thread will definitely go places and not get several people vacationed. 
If people can express thoughts without targeting, insulting, degrading, etc … it is fine. Sadly some people just can’t find constructive ways to talk about concerns.
So far not bad though. The OP tends to make threads about the CC regularly. Not sure why, but they have a particular interest in it. Nothing stands out as bad though.
One of them frequently afks/non-participation violations in epic BGs, which is concerning since you would expect these guys to abide by the game TOS or at least follow the rules like everyone else. Apparently he’s a multi-boxer as well, since I’ve seen toons with different variations of his same name afking in multiple matches 
The first few times I saw him I didn’t even realize he was on the Community Council, then one day I was randomly skimming thru the CC board and there he was 
Another one has openly injected their politics into GD threads - which isn’t as bad as someone afking/dragging down the team in a BG - but I still find it innappropriate for a yellow-text to be mingling or “taking sides” in such threads tbh
But circling back to your comment, yeah, some of them dropped a one-time “introduction” post and then literally never posted again on the board… it’s like, ugh - such a waste 
The concept of a CC is good, but it’s still left to be determined how much Blizzard actually pulls from them. The situation felt a lot like placation rather than seeking solutions to the communication blockade between players and devs.
I’ve had few encounters with CC posts. Mirasol, as posted above me, has been thoughtful - with detailed and informative posts - when we have interacted.
Then others have just been hostile.
Once politics are brought up, don’t expect people to always stay quiet. Nobody is required to check their personality at the door and become some sort of robot when they get colored text. I am not supposed to post on alt chars, so if I did what you said, I would be muzzled. I get to say what I want as long as it is within the code of conduct (even if a bit off topic).
It also means when I object to something Blizz does, I freely speak about that too. I am constructive, and don’t throw insults, but I can certainly be critical.
I missed/scrolled past this comment earlier, but yeah, I noticed the same thing as well
GD has NEVER been a good place to glean feedback from.
Too many trolls. Too many bored people looking for interesting arguments or trying to get someone to tussle with them. Too many people parroting things they hear while watching Influencers and streamers.
If Blizzard wanted good honest feedback they’d randomly use demographics to send out surveys to groups of people. With some incentive to answer them. Game time or something. A promo item. Whatever. One week, target raiders. One week, target pet collectors. One week, target PVPers. One week, target people with a billion alts and a lot of time played between them. One week, target people with super high achievements. One week, target new bnet accounts with an active player (newbie). It could be automated even. Get honest feed back from a certain group before you tweak something that pertains to them. Send out a questionaire to people who have a lot of time played on DeathKnights, for example, in the process of tweaking that class.
Just seems reasonable to me. If they were going to seek player feedback.
I’d like to think they get a lot of feedback from the CC even if we don’t see it.
i do not think the surveys would work for a few reasons.
1 the promo items lets say the raiders get a mount and the mount collectors get a pet or a aotc mount.
as for the class section might back fire i could say locks are op with this X and Y skills. or players hate the locks in pvp would nerf them. and the play time you said would it be a day month or years.
I think the Season 4 M+ poll should have been a good indication of this. And the free mount poll.
Too easily manipulated by streamers and their followers. The ancient had a sudden burst after one streamer (I don’t recall who, maybe asmon?) commented about how we haven’t had an ancient mount yet and they want one. Suddenly, Ancient was #1 in the poll.
Then there were people who outright admitted to trolling the Season 4 poll because they wanted to make it as annoying as possible for the people who play M+.
Literally 100% of the comments about me are stemmed from a single person, who I have blocked on these forums, and continues to circumvent my ignores by making more characters, and has moved to outside the forums for harassment. They roped other people into the conversation as well. And instead of a civil conversation, they in turn just default to bashing and insults. Apparently, based on a convo I found in the discord, they literally created a thread on reddit JUST to bash me - and the r/wow mods banned them, then they had the audacity to blame me. Like, excuse you? I don’t care enough to watch reddit. I don’t care enough to watch anywhere, if I’m mentioned. Lol. Maybe, just maybe, someone else saw you bashing someone and reported you. 
As I’ve said before - Blizzard has the data. If they are doing something with a specific target in mind, send it out to those targets, and a select few of the others - because feedback of why someone isn’t participating is important as well. But the main feedback should still come from those who do participate in it.
When the CC first started, I predicted that it would be a lot like alpha & beta tests of every expansion.
Turns out I was right.
Lots of people join alpha. You log in the first day, there are people everywhere. Mostly sitting in town looking at the new talents, and stuff. And you’ll see some people doing quests.
A week later, alpha is a ghost town. And it’s just the same dozen people posting anything at all.
CC has turned out the same.
People like to sign up for stuff. It never occurs to them that they’re taking the spot of somebody who would actually, you know, do something.
Some of the CC don’t even have active subs anymore.
We were told when we joined that even if we declined, we aren’t taking the spot from someone else, actually.
I likely wouldn’t if not for Dragonflight preorders. I only renewed this month to post on the forums, then I bought the DF Epic Edition, so now I have 2 months.
Cross Faction not being in queued content killed my interest in WoW right now - I have barely logged on in like 2 weeks.
I assume that more people will start posting when alpha starts and they have fresh stuff to give feedback on. Just like Wrath Classic Beta got Classic CC members posting.
yep, the sum total of the CC’s accomplishments is giving a handful of sycophants a different color text to make them feel important on the forums.
But that was ther plan from the beginning, make a PR move to get everyone to stop yelling at blizz for their cubicle crawlin’, cosby room rustlin’ lady milk stealin’ antics… Now the orange posters are the target, who’s not at fault at all for being ignored by blizz, consequences successfully dodged!
Meh, you got a chuckle outta me.
Link??
I’m on reddit as well (mostly non-WoW/off-topic reddits), but I can’t be everywhere. That drama you describe sounds like a juicy read 