60 ilvl of titanforging? Seriously?

Some of you people are really defensive for no reason whatsoever.

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eh - they withdrew the comment, so I won’t respond.

Gear is just something you really can’t worry about anymore. By can’t I mean you really don’t have to think about it. It just comes no matter what you are doing. At the very least I can’t take gear, or gear farming, very seriously anymore. What comes I’ll wear and that’s that.

Weapons can only get wf’ed up to +10 ilvls.

So you can’t titanforge a weapon.

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Yes you can, I have a 415 2-hander from a +10.

Then it came from your weekly chest. Weapons are capped at +10 from source level. (And yes this CAN be labeled as titanforged, but it’s still capped at +10)

For your weekly that means 420 cap. Since it’s 410 base.

PS: Mind equipping that?

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According to Watcher (Ion), they can’t.

If you got it from your weekly mythic + chest, then it warforged from the chest ilvl, which has a base of 410 for a +10 reward.

It should say “warforged” or “titanforged” on the item.

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Unfortunately, this also means that if you do care about your gear being good, you’re thrown in the drag of a number hell that is simming. You can’t just aim to hit certain stat caps like you used to and it’s almost never immediately clear that one piece of gear is an upgrade compared to another. It’s tiresome and frustrating.

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I’m not home so I can’t, but they definitely can minimum Titanforge, just incredibly unlikely.

That’s from over a year ago, hence; “The current thinking is to not let weapons Titanforge but only Warforge (+5 item levels)”

Before BFA started, I thought they should at a minimum include trinkets with weapons as not being able to TF. Trinkets are probably the biggest offender to normal gear progression. It is already annoying that the best trinkets for raiding for my main come out of mythic+. Regardless, I’m using world quest trinkets at the moment for raiding and that feels odd.

Maybe a middle ground is adding trinkets to azerite armor that can’t upgrade or at least make them like weapons.

I wouldn’t quote the summary that WoWhead listed, but the actual quote from Ion in the video.

No, they cannot. Again, if you have a dungeon weapon at 415, it came from your chest. This is not something you can argue. Feel free to post later when you’ve equipped it and i’ll tell you exactly WHEN you looted it from your chest.

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I relogged, switching to one of my combat sets, so you should be able to see the greaves and some other gear now. No, I don’t actually use [simple black dress] for PVP, normally. I still think wowprogress is just out of date by a day or two.

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That does help thank you. I see the 420 trinket now which is a super high Tforge, congrats. Although the stats on that seem REALLY weak for the ilvl. No?

grats on the nice RNG!

I’m sorry, but the fact that loot from LFR even has the possibility of being higher than base mythic dazar’alor loot is just a sign of horrid design choices.

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To be fair, wowprogress will pick up whatever the armory shows you in. You could log out naked, scan yourself on wowprogress, and it would then show nothing equipped. It’s not any more reliable than the armory is if you log out in a different gearset.

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It isn’t just casuals farming them. Mythic raiders are farming them as well-- in order to help give them a competitive edge since PL enforcement in Raids.

So you can’t blame this strictly on casuals. The WF/TF issue is broad stroked, to say only Casuals are farming them isn’t reality.

And honestly shows you aren’t seeing the bigger picture.

It doesn’t matter what level of content players are playing, if they feel like they have to have a WF/TF item to be competitive, they will do it and Blizzard knows it.

Blizzard’s banking on it to keep Players of all levels subbed and on the casino tread mill.

m+ cache don’t follow normal rules, any item in them can forge to the max ilvl.

that possibility is so low it’s irrelevant