Trash company with trash devs doing trash changes. What else would you expect from the makers of Shadow lands.
They couldnât have possibly tested it properly.
Buff dropped last Tuesday. It would have been Wednesday or Thursday before they even realized there was a problem. Friday was a holiday for many, and they dropped the patch as soon as they got back. So they decided on a change, coded it, and deployed the patch containing it⌠all in what. two working days tops? That just doesnât leave any room for testing⌠which clearly didnât happen
Bro, blizzard doesnt test their games. At all.
We all know this by now lol
The unholy nerf was attempting to fix a bug for gargoyles since it was using mop or legion type uncapped casting rather than having a cooldown like it did in the original. The current gargoyle is still better than the original one from WotLK as well since thereâs still no cooldown on the spell it casts and it doesnât have to land before it starts casting it.
Moronic if true
Typical modern blizzard, overbuff something for pve then inadvertently nerf it PVP too when they try to walk it back?
I donât know enough about PVE to know if they buff was even a good idea, but it sounds like they didnât test it at all. But now they nerf one of the coolest pvp classes in wrath
Itâs like they have one guy running all of WoW Classic and itâs Mr Bean
They tested neither of the changes. If the intern doing this had any idea what heâs doing and some integrity, theyâd run tests, maybe have a PTR build for this along other possible tuning changes and in general make it not a blanket buff but a more balanced choice - maybe a glyph.
So a fair choice to attempt to correct, imo. These other class balancing attempts in a solved game are above their current capabilities though.
Anyway, seems like most would prefer neither the buffs or this nerf were instituted.
Nah, they over cooked it. It was on the outer threshold of what they intended and set to scale higher. Anyone who wasnât biased could see there would be an adjustment. Typical of a company that donât test stuff they adjusted it in one of the most ham-fisted ways possible.
The interns are running the Classic show.
I mean forget PTR, I donât know if they would have even had time to sim it. Just the timeline is crazy. Around a holiday weekend they did all this in a day or so? Thatâs just absolutely insane.
Why change the pvp aspect of ferals when you specifically said you were not going to. If you are going to change PVP perhaps start with all the bugs that are still in arena.
Should have waited until ICC to nerf if they were going to, since thatâs when feral was going to actually start beating everyone in damage by a good margin.
Maybe if theyâre being fed Unholy FrenzyâŚ
People had it simmed for p3 and p4 the same day it went live. Blizzard couldnât do it before deploying the OOC buff because they simply donât have the resources or manpower to do this.
Nothing by Blizzard but wowhead has an article here and the druid Discord is going nuts:
Feral Druid Naturalist Talent Nerfed - WotLK Classic - Wowhead News
Should have never buffed it. Itâs beyond their current capabilities. If they make ANY change to class balance it should be between patches on the PTR.
You seem to be misreading what I stated:
This means before ANY changes. As in prior to the changes they have recently made to Feral, as stated in:
Though sure, itâs nice that they were thinking of Feral performance in PVE, but afaik, the only things people were asking about was to maybe increase threat in Bear form, while tanking, but reduce it while not. People who didnât like bear weaving, just didnât, and those who appreciate the complexity of trying to min-max for mediocre performance seemed to be enjoying bear weaving fine.
They made a change because they didnât seem to like the playstyle that people found, and now theyâve impacted PVP, which is unfortunate.
Thanks for the link!
And why arenât they using glyphs like they did with the ret buff? That way it prevents this kind of tomfoolery. Tie the buff and nerf into a glyph⌠how difficult is that?
Sim wise in late ICC gear without hysteria feral was simming over 1k dps above every other class, with the nerf itâs pretty close to the other top classes. But nerfing current feral when itâs now just an A tier spec is pretty cringe.
To be fair, the article is like there because the druid discord went nuts since authors are pulled from various discords
I do not believe this change was made with Feral tanks in mind. We already have a hard time holding threat in multi-target situations, and some in single-target situations. I think a better change would have been to reduce the damage increase from Predatory Instincts to 6% overall as opposed to 10%.