There are plenty of empty Vanilla and WotLK servers for you to choose from.
Imagine being this dumb?
I wouldnât presume to speculate about your intelligence.
Layers make even megaservers look dead. Megaservers have no server community. Theyâre just bad.
Itâs fine, I rather not engage in conversation with you too. The tone you use to diminish people shows your lack of empathy and your true nature as a forum troll.
Goodbye.
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Untrue.
Incorrect.
Theyâre far better than a dead server.
Name calling is inappropriate.
Please, let us keep the forums civil.
When a day or two into this people start raging on the forums about their friends server being faction locked, I wonât bother to remind people that one server with War Mode would have been the better option for creating faction balanced PvP in SoD.
Also, Iâll throw in that sharding would be better than layering for SoD PvP so you can faction balance Ashenvale specifically apart from the rest of the continent. This could especially be true since a lot more Horde afk in Kalimdor where most Alliance are afking in EK.
Playing on Defias Pilager when HC was still popular, Iâd say some zones were empty and others were massively overcrowded to the point it was annoying to play in them with too many players. This is another reason sharding per zone is better than continent wide layering.
Megaservers suck.
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I think the players would quit before they become the minority faction and get camped.
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Never thought Iâd say sharding is a good thing, but itâs a valid point. You know whatâs even better? One, continuous world not broken up into pieces. Iâve grown to hate layering. Iâd rather have a world full of players. Oh no, you might need to group to quest? Itâs a freaking mmorpg. Players should feel compelled to group.
I just donât think the anti-layering/sharding position is justifiable when you consider the logistics and number of players involved. Having one server instead of 20+ means you donât have to deal with the drama and nightmare of people being on dead servers and some servers having hour long login queues. Then you have people demanding mergers/realm linking and free transfers for months, many quitting before the problem is possibly eventually dealt with.
Thereâs no solution to those issues if you stick everyone into one instance of the world per-server and then cap the population at a lower number. Letting too many onto one server at once without layering/sharding just makes for a miserable experience like waiting in lines at Disney World. We also may be dealing with hundreds of thousands of players trying it at launch and a quick massive drop off afterwards. That just wouldnât be reasonably manageable with oldschool servers without layering or sharding.
You also end up splitting up friend groups as many people have multiple groups that play WoW that wonât all coordinate onto one server if thereâs dozens of servers.
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I donât understand this post. You think a single megaserver has less queues than having multiple servers? Hint: layers doesnât reduce queues. And they create the appearance of a dead server anyway. So what if thereâs more players if you canât see or interact with them? They might as well not be there.
I hated layers when they first announced them. Then I considered them a necessary evil. Now I just hate them. For a couple reasons. First, remember when Blizz promised layers would be gone forever 4 years ago? Yet they still exist in Wrath. SoâŚthey lied about that. I have no faith in them to âdo it rightâ. And eliminate layers when theyâre not necessary. And secondly, how poorly they executed layers on Hardcore. Talk about an excessive amount of layers. DP Horde is an empty, dead world. The sad thing isâŚitâs not. Thereâs tons of players. But thanks to layers it looks like a void. Alliance is more populated, but still nowhere near where it should be (or would be) without layers.
I simply detest megaservers and the reliance on layers. You end up with servers who have zero server community. Everyone is a stranger. Youâll have people layer hopping all over, abusing their functionality. There will be endless âinvite to layer x,y,zâ spam in all the channels. You may have some really cool stuff going on in a layer. And youâre stuck on another one twiddling your thumbs, completely unaware of whatâs going on. ItâsâŚnot natural. Itâs not Vanilla. I still look at it as the world being at the center of the game. That dies with this kind of design.
What theyâve done is ensure the RP PVP realm is the mega server. Itâs the only PVP realm that people can plan on right now to roll on. So thatâs what theyâre doing.
Youâre entirely wrong here.
When you donât use layering or sharding you cap the server population that can login far below whatâs technically possible to not ruin the player experience.
Many players flock to the popular servers and they end up with very long queues. If you donât understand this, you didnât play real vanilla on a high pop server.
IE: early expansions Illidan had a multi-hour login queue at peak times, but despite still having a population of tens of thousands of players (wow progress says 32k, over 10k more than the entirety of all era combined), it no longer ever has a login queue because they just split players into shards now. Theyâd never let that many people login at once if there wasnât sharding and we were all stuck in one instance of the world.
Explain in your typical weirdo partyrock logic lol.
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Adding this stalker to the ignore list â I see itâs a hidden profile. Thatâs what they do to try to prevent people from muting them. But itâs easy to bypass by using your own profile. FYI for others to know.
Stalker? I looked at a thread and saw a familiar name who happens to always have awful opinions.
What a weirdo, enjoy your RP server dude.
Ever notice how its the RP players who love to be incredibly wrong, and when they get called out on anything they melt, squirm, and mute? Funny.
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âMany players flock to the popular servers.â
As opposed to only having one server option?
Youâre making a leap from going from 1-2 megaservers to 20 empty servers. You know thereâs a middle ground. But like usual Blizz takes the easy route, to the detriment of the experience.
Also, remember in early Wrath Classic when there was a Blue post about how âWeâre putting an end to mega-servers!â 