30 Min Debuff abuse

Groups are empowered to manage their own members through the vote-kick system. If the majority of the group feels a player should be removed, they can initiate a vote-kick to remove them. The system is entirely under the control of our players. Players may choose to remove any other player from the group for any reason, provided the vote to kick passes.

There is the article to prove it is not griefing.

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We know factually, and as supported by Blizzard articles and Blizzard employee posts, that voting someone out is not considered harassment.

You know how silly it is to think that Blizzard spent time developing and tweaking the vote to kick system if they also felt that using it was a violation of their own rules…right? I mean, that just doesn’t make any sense.

And then for them to back it up over the years with countless Blue posts confirming that it’s allowed (and not “griefing”).

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You don’t get to decide who gives their opinion and who doesn’t.

You threw a dramatic fit over the fact that you believed people were dismissing you and claimed people are going to get retaliation against you… yet here you are, trying to shove others out of a thread.

The hypocrisy is astounding.

We have posted ideas for tweaks to the system. You’ve ignored the play victim.

I’ve now posted ideas at least twice… others have posted ideas… and they either just get ignored so people can argue or when asked to discuss and explain their ideas… they just attack with personal insults.

I asked you questions and gave opinions on your ideas to discuss further. I addressed different options that many of us have tried to discuss in these threads. And what did you do? Resorted to “you’re on ignore troll!”

Yeah… I’m totally the one with a problem here. :roll_eyes:

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Neither do you. You’ve told people on a few occasions to stop posting because they didn’t agree with you.

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Some people just seem to act like they are the ones who makes the rules, when they actually do not make the rules.

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Incorrect. Sorry, try again.

There may be some perspective differences that are being missed between long time players / hardcore players and newbies / casual players.

Highly experienced players would rarely get kicked; they’re fast, effective and know the dungeons.

As a new player, I’ve been kicked from timewalking dungeons, anniversary dungeons, the Hallows End dungeon and more. So, yes, a resounding yes, people can experience getting get kicked “a lot”. It absolutely happens.

And while it may not be abuse of the kick system, it is certainly indicative of a culture heavy on impatience and light on community spirit. And quite offputting to new players.

(I’m sticking around, but I’m older and a US veteran… not at all like these younger generations.)

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*That they’re not enforcing the rule, not that it’s not griefing.

Yes, like like POs who refuse to enforce law. It happens.

Nah you are, blocked all 3 of you though bye~

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No, initiating a vote-kick against another player is not considered as griefing.

You do not get to determined what is against the rules. You do not make the rules.

I love how these threads always devolve into “I refuse to listen to factual information so I’m blocking you” or “Here’s some personal attacks because I can’t be bothered to read ideas and information!”

And all in a thread where the OP either lied or voted yes to the behavior they claim to hate.

:woman_facepalming:

So, you actually believe that they spent money, resources and time, developing, creating and implementing a system that nobody is allowed to use…and then left it in the game for over a decade?

You’re smarter than that. I get that it hurts your belief that using it is “griefing”, so I understand why you want to imagine they did that, but we’re not that gullible.

The support article is clear. You are wrong and it’s okay to admit when you’re wrong. It definitely makes sense to block us too. Otherwise you’d have to keep hearing the truth.

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They just don’t like the truth. We could link all the evidence to prove them wrong, in the end, it will be, “I refuse the truth, so you’ll be blocked.”

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Fact: Blizzard doesn’t enforce harassment or griefing rules whether that be on the forums or in game.

But they ban people for those things lol

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Come to Customer Support forums, and you’ll be proven entirely wrong. Glad you don’t like actual facts though.

Not really, no. The only thing they go for is if enough people report someone for saying no-no words. People can bypass ignores, continue to bother people, have their friends bother said person. They don’t care - they’re more likely to actually warn you for reporting it. I have proof of that from a ticket some months ago where a friend group intentionally bypassed ignore to bother me.

Alright lets see the proof that you know it was a group doing it and blizzard warned you about reporting it

I love how this is the 3rd time I’ve seen you say something like this in the past month when you do exactly the same thing.

What do you think you’re gaining being a hypocrite?

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