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Apparently Blizzard cares because they havent done it in 11 years.

They added 2h Frost back again, so clearly their opinions/designs change.

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So the PPM is being doubled for DW, which means you could either make it only proc off MH, or half it’s proc rate, or double 2H proc rate.

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No, the PPM is still 5. Increasing haste (and crit to an extent) increases the amount of proc chances, the ppm doesnt change. Also adding in the second weapon just does it, it proccing off the offhand is intended as well.

Ok… But all that can be changed…

Im done.

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Yeah, and they can can remove 2h because its creating a mess.

You are really hell bent on impossibilities. You are right, if don’t change anything, it will never change.

PPM could be changed for 2H.

KM could proc off only a MH weapon.

They could be intending to have 2H outperform DW.

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There it is. It’s fine if you don’t want 2H Frost. You have a right to your opinion.

Just, please, stop acting like it impossible to do something simple like adjust how KM works by changing the associated mathematical formula to better accommodate both DW and 2H.

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Changing the ppm will change the proc rate for 1h weapons as well.

KM proccing off of off-hand crits is an intended mechanic.

There what is? Jumping to conclusions are we? It’s a possibility because it happened once before. They can also leave it exactly as it is and you guys will just have to deal with it and they just focus on the spec being balanced with other specs and if you really want to compete then you have to DW.

The spec was intended for both 2H and DW, then only DW, and now both again. See how that works? Intensions change and so does the code, and so does the game.

Anyway, clearly you have a hard time letting people enjoy the idea of having 2H back and want to rain on all the 2H parades wherever you can find them.

Let me ask you this, since you revel in the accuracy of your own predictions:

What do you think Blizzard will do? What will the disparity between 2H and DW be when Shadowlands launches?

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Again as said you can change it to make it work. It is not IMPOSSIBLE it just requires some work. And a new way of looking at things. The fact that jts been written off as impossible is short sided thinking by people that do not like it and that want things to stay as is while a majority (and yes it is a majority as if there were so few of us then they wouldn’t have brought it back) do not like using 1h weapons on DKS.

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Unless of course you change it only for 2H.

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Which is what j thought i was saying. Was I not clear on that?

Current formula is believed to be 4.5 x crit x haste RPPM.

What would you change to normalize the two weapon types?

Couldn’t you just create a simple true/false condition hidden in the skill - I.E. If using two weapons the formula is ABC and if using a 2H weapon the formulas is XYZ.

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Make it proc on autos instead. Current issue is that km doesn’t have enough crits to satisfy the requirement to reach the RPPM value.

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It used to work that way didn’t it?

Also would DW still have double the chance because it procs off both weapons?

RPPM works to normalise proc rate over time regardless of proc amount. As long as you reach a specific threshold, there shouldn’t be a difference.

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