None of that was denied, especially Sylvanas being bought to justic. Do we have to remind you yet AGAIN, that Shadowlands hasn’t officially started yet and no one knows what’s going to happen to her?
This is the nonsense that’s getting old. You’re claiming things that are just your head cannon. And NE fans are allowed to have gripes about the story. We just don’t want to hear it in every single post. What is hard to understand?
I’m salty enough to gripe about how the Worgen were utterly mishandled by blizzard from a lore point of view, but I know better than to derail threads about it.
All of it was denied, and especially the Sylvanas part as the writers have already told us that the revenge plot is completed and that Sylvanas actually isn’t evil. They also don’t have their zones back and they’ll never get a new home.
I’m not derailing any thread, I don’t even read most threads that aren’t about night elves in the first place.
Blizzard stated the forsaken and night elves are getting a new home, sometime after the Shadowlands expac. And again, NO ONE knows what’s going to happen to Sylvanas. The Kaldorei retook Darkshore, and Ashenvale is theirs still. The only zone the Kaldorei lost for good was Azshara and that was during Cata.
They didn’t confirm that. They said that getting a new home for forsaken and night elves is not something that could happen in SL, and they never confirmed that there will be new homes.
The whole point of destroying Teldrassil and Undercity was to force people into Stormwind and Orgrimmar anyway.
besides those that paid attention to the interviews
They lost in BfA: Teldrassil, Darkshore and Ashenvale
Someone didn’t play the Battle for Dakshore, in which the Night Elves won and retook it and yet AGAIN, Ashenvale is still Kaldorei territory. Stop confusing your head cannon with actual lore. You’re not doing yourself any favors.
This is Blizzard we’re talking about. Take everything they say with a HEAPING pile of salt. Yeah, they said she wasn’t evil, but yet they’re retconning her old lore to show exactly the opposite is true. And there are people who still take them at their word.
There is no capital in Hyjal, we don’t even know if they actually live there now. The refugees are still in Stormwind.
I mentioned that they retook Darkshore.
Says who? There’s literally no source that the Night Elves got it back.
Yea, but as long as not proven otherwise, they are redeeming Sylvanas and think that she’s not evil. It’s not just 1 interview we’re talking about here.
Lack of evidence for the former isn’t evidence the latter is going to happen either. Than explain why they’re retconning her lore to show that’s she’s been evil for a long time now.
I mean if the writers state that Sylvanas isnt evil and that she will get redeemed, what would you assume is going to happen? Even if some of those interviews are 1-2 years old they still are related to the current story.
Because they think they’re smart when they make people think that sylvanas is evil and then say HAH WE GOT YOU ALL when they redeem her out of nowhere.
Her not being evil or a raid boss was in response to BfAs story and people’s worry they were going to pull another Garrosh…which they did anyway. We DO NOT know blizzards plans for Sylvanas. Besides her initial monologue the first time we enter the Maw, she isn’t even active or seen anywhere else for the first patch cycle.
I mean the BfA story is basically the same as the SL story, they didn’t conclude anything in BfA as they claimed, and they must have known their plans for Sylvanas far in advance.
But the only things we know is that the writers think that she isn’t evil and they also stated that she won’t die and has a plan. I think that’s a pretty clear message here.
Yea, because blizz thinks that people will just forget if they drag it out. Unfortunately, they are right as most night elf fans have already quit at this point, the “Tyrande got her revenge and Teldrassil is concluded” part must have given most of them the rest.
In the context of that interview, the Blizzard rep was talking about how Sylvanas didn’t see herself as evil. It wasn’t making an objective statement. So even if you trust the interview (why?) then it’s still not making a hard confirmation that she wasn’t bad because the response was meant to be vague and non-committal.
Uh well the “Sylvanas isn’t evil” was in fact objective. The part that comes after is how she sees it, but the Sylvanas isn’t evil statement is from the PoV of the devs in that case.
How? BfA was about Sylvanas and SL is about Sylvanas too, it’s the same story.
Because they SAID that the faction war and night elf revenge plot is completed and concluded, despite them doing nothing to actually conclude it.
Besides the devs statements.
The reason is because most night elf players already quit in this sh*t fest of a story that’s trying to paint the genocide of their race as a heroic thing, and letting everyone get away with it while giving the Night Elves absolutely nothing back and also denying them justice.
See above. They said that those things they wanted to sweep under the rug are concluded (Faction war, teldrassil genocide) but in reality nothing of that is concluded.
No one is painting the genocide as heroic, if we can even call it that, since a genocide implies sylvanas targeted them due to cultural or ethnic reasons. Only deranged people who are confusing their headcannon with actual lore are doing that by making false claims.
No one is sweeping it under the rug either, since we know half the Ardenweald campaign is rescuing the souls sent to the maw and the night warrior stuff. Everything you said is pure head cannon and not based on fact at all.
Yes Teldrassil was genocide, let’s not go back to that. And the writers pretty much implied it as a good and heroic thing multiple times, same thing with Sylvanas getting redeemed and glorified.
Who says it’s false? She hasn’t done anything to the Horde really, and not to the forsaken either. In the end they can spin it around.
Yea, because it was Tyrande who is in the expansion cinematic, basically is behind everything that happens and gets cinematic after cinematic and a glorious redemption at the end of the expansion.
Revenge plot and faction war = concluded. That’s what they said. Revenge has been achieved.
Zones gone, population gone, future gone, revenge plot over before it started. What did they give?
What? Are we ignoring all the plot points that were left open and ignored in BfA? The Night Elf revenge plot is one of that where the writers said that it’s over even though nothing happened that could be called revenge or revenge plot.
Nope, not if they end up saying that sylvanas somehow saved everyone by turning on the jailer.
dev statement
but that’s what they think, so they won’t continue those stories and ignore them, for example the night elves wont get more resolution than killing a valkyr
Not there, destroyed or in Horde hands.
and you have zero evidence of saying that there are still many left, I have evidence of “too few”
yea, but not the faction war or the revenge plot. the faction war is over and so is the revenge plot, the night elves got their revenge and won’t get any more. That’s not just something the devs have said but something that’s also supported by the lore.
